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Electric Blue Johanni missing part of it's tail Gill Passman 05-11-2005
Posted by Gill Passman on May 11, 2005, 4:25 pm
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One of my Electric Blues has lost part of her tail. There is no sign of
infection but she is keeping pretty much hidden. She also had an assignation
with one of the males in a cave this afternoon, quite fascinating to watch.

Should I just leave her be and monitor her progress or should I be more
proactive and possibly move her although I'm not sure where to (my QT tank
is currently housing a Betta).

Water tests out at 0 ammonia and nitrites, around 10 nitrates and pH of 7.5

Any thoughts would be appreciated?

Thanks
Gill





Posted by Elaine T on May 11, 2005, 9:03 pm
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Gill Passman wrote:
> One of my Electric Blues has lost part of her tail. There is no sign of
> infection but she is keeping pretty much hidden. She also had an assignation
> with one of the males in a cave this afternoon, quite fascinating to watch.
>
> Should I just leave her be and monitor her progress or should I be more
> proactive and possibly move her although I'm not sure where to (my QT tank
> is currently housing a Betta).
>
> Water tests out at 0 ammonia and nitrites, around 10 nitrates and pH of 7.5
>
> Any thoughts would be appreciated?
>
> Thanks
> Gill
>
>
>
>
Cichlids are sturdy, and usually heal well in good water like you
describe. I used to dab cichlid injuries with mercurichrome to be sure
they didn't get infected, *if* I could catch the fish without ripping
the tank apart. You can supposedly also use Neosporin cream, although I
haven't tried it. The ones that got badly beat up and needed treatment
the most were usually pretty easy to catch since they'd be up at the top
of the tank trying hard to look like an innocent bit of debris. ;-)

If the tail loss was from suddenly severe aggression that is ongoing,
you'll probably have to get her safe and away from the stress to heal.
You can use breeding nets for small Africans, or for the betta. Then
the problem becomes reintroducing her to the tank without her getting
beat up again, so hopefully that's not an issue.

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

Posted by Gill Passman on May 12, 2005, 3:46 am
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> Gill Passman wrote:
> > One of my Electric Blues has lost part of her tail. There is no sign of
> > infection but she is keeping pretty much hidden. She also had an
assignation
> > with one of the males in a cave this afternoon, quite fascinating to
watch.
> >
> > Should I just leave her be and monitor her progress or should I be more
> > proactive and possibly move her although I'm not sure where to (my QT
tank
> > is currently housing a Betta).
> >
> > Water tests out at 0 ammonia and nitrites, around 10 nitrates and pH of
7.5
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Gill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Cichlids are sturdy, and usually heal well in good water like you
> describe. I used to dab cichlid injuries with mercurichrome to be sure
> they didn't get infected, *if* I could catch the fish without ripping
> the tank apart. You can supposedly also use Neosporin cream, although I
> haven't tried it. The ones that got badly beat up and needed treatment
> the most were usually pretty easy to catch since they'd be up at the top
> of the tank trying hard to look like an innocent bit of debris. ;-)
>
> If the tail loss was from suddenly severe aggression that is ongoing,
> you'll probably have to get her safe and away from the stress to heal.
> You can use breeding nets for small Africans, or for the betta. Then
> the problem becomes reintroducing her to the tank without her getting
> beat up again, so hopefully that's not an issue.
>
> --
> Elaine T __
> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
> rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

Thanks Elaine,
She seems to be keeping herself pretty well hidden - only coming out at food
time - haven't noticed her actually eat though. The agressor is a male
Electric Blue - the same one who had the assignation with her in the cave
yesterday - so I wonder if it has something to do with this. All of the
others seem to be leaving her alone.

It's not going to be easy to catch her without dismantling the rock work
which would be a major operation so I guess I'll just leave her be unless
the situation gets worse.

Gill



Posted by Elaine T on May 12, 2005, 4:18 am
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Gill Passman wrote:
>
>>Gill Passman wrote:
>>
>>>One of my Electric Blues has lost part of her tail. There is no sign of
>>>infection but she is keeping pretty much hidden. She also had an
>
> assignation
>
>>>with one of the males in a cave this afternoon, quite fascinating to
>
> watch.
>
>>>Should I just leave her be and monitor her progress or should I be more
>>>proactive and possibly move her although I'm not sure where to (my QT
>
> tank
>
>>>is currently housing a Betta).
>>>
>>>Water tests out at 0 ammonia and nitrites, around 10 nitrates and pH of
>
> 7.5
>
>>>Any thoughts would be appreciated?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Gill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Cichlids are sturdy, and usually heal well in good water like you
>>describe. I used to dab cichlid injuries with mercurichrome to be sure
>>they didn't get infected, *if* I could catch the fish without ripping
>>the tank apart. You can supposedly also use Neosporin cream, although I
>>haven't tried it. The ones that got badly beat up and needed treatment
>>the most were usually pretty easy to catch since they'd be up at the top
>>of the tank trying hard to look like an innocent bit of debris. ;-)
>>
>>If the tail loss was from suddenly severe aggression that is ongoing,
>>you'll probably have to get her safe and away from the stress to heal.
>>You can use breeding nets for small Africans, or for the betta. Then
>>the problem becomes reintroducing her to the tank without her getting
>>beat up again, so hopefully that's not an issue.
>>
>>--
>>Elaine T __
>>http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
>>rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com
>
>
> Thanks Elaine,
> She seems to be keeping herself pretty well hidden - only coming out at food
> time - haven't noticed her actually eat though. The agressor is a male
> Electric Blue - the same one who had the assignation with her in the cave
> yesterday - so I wonder if it has something to do with this. All of the
> others seem to be leaving her alone.
>
> It's not going to be easy to catch her without dismantling the rock work
> which would be a major operation so I guess I'll just leave her be unless
> the situation gets worse.
>
> Gill
>
>
I wonder if she's refusing food and hiding because she's holding eggs.
Cichlids.com also says the males are very aggressive during courtship so
that could explain the tail damage. If she's holding eggs, her mouth
and throat will look a bit enlarged.
http://www.cichlids.com/wiki/index.php/Melanochromis_johannii

Do you have only one female in the tank? I've not kept this particular
fish but Cichlids.com and Mongabay say to keep several females for each
male. The male's aggression gets spread out that way.

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

Posted by Gill Passman on May 12, 2005, 9:33 am
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> Gill Passman wrote:
> >
> >>Gill Passman wrote:
> >>
> >>>One of my Electric Blues has lost part of her tail. There is no sign of
> >>>infection but she is keeping pretty much hidden. She also had an
> >
> > assignation
> >
> >>>with one of the males in a cave this afternoon, quite fascinating to
> >
> > watch.
> >
> >>>Should I just leave her be and monitor her progress or should I be more
> >>>proactive and possibly move her although I'm not sure where to (my QT
> >
> > tank
> >
> >>>is currently housing a Betta).
> >>>
> >>>Water tests out at 0 ammonia and nitrites, around 10 nitrates and pH of
> >
> > 7.5
> >
> >>>Any thoughts would be appreciated?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>Gill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Cichlids are sturdy, and usually heal well in good water like you
> >>describe. I used to dab cichlid injuries with mercurichrome to be sure
> >>they didn't get infected, *if* I could catch the fish without ripping
> >>the tank apart. You can supposedly also use Neosporin cream, although I
> >>haven't tried it. The ones that got badly beat up and needed treatment
> >>the most were usually pretty easy to catch since they'd be up at the top
> >>of the tank trying hard to look like an innocent bit of debris. ;-)
> >>
> >>If the tail loss was from suddenly severe aggression that is ongoing,
> >>you'll probably have to get her safe and away from the stress to heal.
> >>You can use breeding nets for small Africans, or for the betta. Then
> >>the problem becomes reintroducing her to the tank without her getting
> >>beat up again, so hopefully that's not an issue.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Elaine T __
> >>http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
> >>rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com
> >
> >
> > Thanks Elaine,
> > She seems to be keeping herself pretty well hidden - only coming out at
food
> > time - haven't noticed her actually eat though. The agressor is a male
> > Electric Blue - the same one who had the assignation with her in the
cave
> > yesterday - so I wonder if it has something to do with this. All of the
> > others seem to be leaving her alone.
> >
> > It's not going to be easy to catch her without dismantling the rock work
> > which would be a major operation so I guess I'll just leave her be
unless
> > the situation gets worse.
> >
> > Gill
> >
> >
> I wonder if she's refusing food and hiding because she's holding eggs.
> Cichlids.com also says the males are very aggressive during courtship so
> that could explain the tail damage. If she's holding eggs, her mouth
> and throat will look a bit enlarged.
> http://www.cichlids.com/wiki/index.php/Melanochromis_johannii
>
> Do you have only one female in the tank? I've not kept this particular
> fish but Cichlids.com and Mongabay say to keep several females for each
> male. The male's aggression gets spread out that way.
>
> --
> Elaine T __
> http://eethomp.com/fish.html <'__><
> rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

I was wondering the same thing....however I'm now officially confused....

The three fish I have were sold to me as one male and two females. All of
them are blue. Only one has egg spots. The injured fish is a very much paler
blue. The other "female" has darkened over the last few weeks to much the
same colour as the male but without the egg spots and has a yellow stripe on
the dorsal fin. Just sanity checked myself on some photos taken around 6
weeks ago and the "females" were more of a powder blue....they also appear
to have fewer stripes... Now from just doing a quick bit of "googling" it
would appear that the females should be yellow, but I did see a couple of
times that they can also be blue but paler. All 3 of them are now almost 3
inches long - as I said I am now officially confused....

Gill




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