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Isolating incubating female C.Leptosoma Red Fin 10-14-2007
Posted by Red Fin on October 14, 2007, 12:36 pm
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Hi All,

Just started a Tanganyikan biotope a few months ago.
This is such a great hobby.

I was wondering when is the best time to isolate incubating female
C.Leptosoma? Anyone here has any experience with these mouth brooders? I
just witnessed my dominating male in action with the hatching female and
this was amazing!

Thanks!

Red Fin

Posted by Steve Wolstenholme on October 14, 2007, 1:23 pm
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wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Just started a Tanganyikan biotope a few months ago.
>This is such a great hobby.
>
>I was wondering when is the best time to isolate incubating female
>C.Leptosoma? Anyone here has any experience with these mouth brooders? I
>just witnessed my dominating male in action with the hatching female and
>this was amazing!
>

Cyprichromis spawn frequently and what a show it is!

They swim in the open but they spawn against big rocks.

After spawning they can be a problem. I find them impossible to catch
so I make no attempt to isolate brooding females. If you can catch
your female wait for 20 days. The fry are fully developed after 20
days but the female may hang on them for much longer. Some females
brood too long. I have had a female hang on to the fry until they
died.

The other problem I have found is that the fry make no attempt to hide
so they get eaten. The adults don't eat the fry but other fishes in
the same tank can be a problem.

Ideally I would keep a tank of just Cyprichromis but at the moment
they are sharing a tank with some other Tanganika cichlids.

Steve

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Posted by Malawi Man on October 15, 2007, 1:37 am
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Steve Wolstenholme wrote:

> After spawning they can be a problem. I find them impossible to catch
> so I make no attempt to isolate brooding females. If you can catch
> your female wait for 20 days. The fry are fully developed after 20
> days but the female may hang on them for much longer. Some females
> brood too long. I have had a female hang on to the fry until they
> died.

That happens, especially if its their first or second time and the
female is large and there are no hiding places in the tank.

-- !
Best regards, milc, 500L Mbuna tank, 500L Aulonacara/Haplochromis tank


Posted by Steve Wolstenholme on October 15, 2007, 4:56 am
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wrote:

>Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
>
>> After spawning they can be a problem. I find them impossible to catch
>> so I make no attempt to isolate brooding females. If you can catch
>> your female wait for 20 days. The fry are fully developed after 20
>> days but the female may hang on them for much longer. Some females
>> brood too long. I have had a female hang on to the fry until they
>> died.
>
>That happens, especially if its their first or second time and the
>female is large and there are no hiding places in the tank.
>

Just one female does it. She has spawned many times. There are plenty
of places to hide but she doesn't even try. It is a real pain because
she has big broods.

Steve

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Posted by Malawi Man on October 15, 2007, 8:29 am
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Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Steve Wolstenholme wrote:
>>
>>> After spawning they can be a problem. I find them impossible to
catch
>>> so I make no attempt to isolate brooding females. If you can catch
>>> your female wait for 20 days. The fry are fully developed after 20
>>> days but the female may hang on them for much longer. Some females
>>> brood too long. I have had a female hang on to the fry until they
>>> died.
>>
>> That happens, especially if its their first or second time and the
>> female is large and there are no hiding places in the tank.
>>
>
> Just one female does it. She has spawned many times. There are plenty
> of places to hide but she doesn't even try. It is a real pain because
> she has big broods.

Maybe she's just an overcaring parent. It happens to humans, too,
and with somehow similar results - kids have no life :-)

So you HAVE to catch her if you want the fry to live. Try to build
a trap, I'm using one to catch my cichlids. I have to, because
of the tank setup - lots of large rocks, which makes the fish
impossible to catch by net. With a trap it's doable, it just
takes some time.

Here's the design, I'm using it just slightly modified, also
to catch the larger fry as to not overcrowd the tank:

http://www.klub-malawi.pl/artykuly_klubowiczow/zrob_to_sam/pulapka.html

-- !
Best regards, milc, 500L Mbuna tank, 500L Aulonacara/Haplochromis tank


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