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Re: Four old puzzles #1 James Dow Allen 10-22-2009
Posted by James Dow Allen on October 22, 2009, 6:29 am
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I think one reason rec.puzzles has become less popular
is the SPAM onslaught. Why don't we find an otherwise
idle ng, perhaps rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids as I
have done here, begin cross-posting there, and hope
the spammers don't follow?

>> Please don't reveal why I aver this memo has unique looks.
>> Rather do make your best original theme and post in reply.
>>
>> Famous Will Shakespeare did secure it:
>> So true a fool is love, that in your will, ...
>> Or in Poem LXII:
>> As I all other in all worths exceed ...
>>
>> A Supreme Book can do it:
>> From Ecclesiasticus book LXIII verse XXXII see:
>> Glorify the Lord as much as ever you can,
>> for he will yet far exceed.
>> Or in Gospel by John:
>> My sheep do hear my voice.
>> And I know them: and they follow me.
>>
>> Can you write a sentence (or seven) which keeps faith
>> under my new paradigm?
>> by James Dow Allen

Richard gave a hint for #2, so I'd better give a
hint for "Four old puzzles #1".
I won't bother to rot13 the hint.

The entire message (that is, the lines
beginning ">> " above) is a sequence of
words that satisfies a constraint. (*Each* contiguous
subsequence of words in the message satisfies the same
constraint.) The *meanings* of the message and
the individual words are *irrelevant.* My full name
"James Dow Allen" satisfies the constraint, but
"Richard Heathfield" does not, nor does "James Allen".

This "hint" may tell you little new, but I hope it's
enough. This type of puzzle was very popular in this ng
a few years ago. Despite that no one's solved it yet,
I still believe that this one is of, at most, average
difficulty compared with those posted a few years ago.

James (Dow) Allen

PS: I hope my use of middle name doesn't make me
seem like a pretentious "preppy"! It's a habit I
started with the World-wide-web since "James Allen"
is a *very* common name.


Posted by Richard Heathfield on October 22, 2009, 8:41 am
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wrote:

> I think one reason rec.puzzles has become less popular
> is the SPAM onslaught. Why don't we find an otherwise
> idle ng, perhaps rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids as I
> have done here, begin cross-posting there, and hope
> the spammers don't follow?

I wonder how the cichlid fans will feel about that, when they get back
from their decade-long expedition to Cichlidia to find their
newsgroup stuffed to the gunwales with puzzles?

<snip>

> Richard gave a hint for #2, so I'd better give a
> hint for "Four old puzzles #1".
> I won't bother to rot13 the hint.
>
> The entire message (that is, the lines
> beginning ">> " above) is a sequence of
> words that satisfies a constraint.

I guessed all that.

> (*Each* contiguous
> subsequence of words in the message satisfies the same
> constraint.)

That's additional information, but I'm not sure how useful it is. That
is, I don't immediately see an application for the new knowledge.

> The *meanings* of the message and
> the individual words are *irrelevant.*

I guessed that, too.

> My full name
> "James Dow Allen" satisfies the constraint, but
> "Richard Heathfield" does not, nor does "James Allen".

Bang goes Theory #6.

<snip>

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line vacant - apply within

Posted by jonnie303 on October 22, 2009, 10:53 am
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wrote:
> I think one reason rec.puzzles has become less popular
> is the SPAM onslaught. =A0Why don't we find an otherwise
> idle ng, perhaps rec.aquaria.freshwater.cichlids as I
> have done here, begin cross-posting there, and hope
> the spammers don't follow?
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Please don't reveal why I aver this memo has unique looks.
> >> Rather do make your best original theme and post in reply.
>
> >> Famous Will Shakespeare did secure it:
> >> =A0 So true a fool is love, that in your will, ...
> >> Or in Poem LXII:
> >> =A0 As I all other in all worths exceed ...
>
> >> A Supreme Book can do it:
> >> From Ecclesiasticus book LXIII verse XXXII see:
> >> =A0 Glorify the Lord as much as ever you can,
> >> =A0 for he will yet far exceed.
> >> Or in Gospel by John:
> >> =A0 My sheep do hear my voice.
> >> =A0 And I know them: =A0and they follow me.
>
> >> Can you write a sentence (or seven) which keeps faith
> >> under my new paradigm?
> >> by James Dow Allen
>
> Richard gave a hint for #2, so I'd better give a
> hint for "Four old puzzles #1".
> I won't bother to rot13 the hint.
>
> The entire message (that is, the lines
> beginning ">> " above) is a sequence of
> words that satisfies a constraint. =A0(*Each* contiguous
> subsequence of words in the message satisfies the same
> constraint.) =A0The *meanings* of the message and
> the individual words are *irrelevant.* =A0My full name
> "James Dow Allen" satisfies the constraint, but
> "Richard Heathfield" does not, nor does "James Allen".
>
> This "hint" may tell you little new, but I hope it's
> enough. =A0This type of puzzle was very popular in this ng
> a few years ago. =A0Despite that no one's solved it yet,
> I still believe that this one is of, at most, average
> difficulty compared with those posted a few years ago.
>
> James (Dow) Allen
>
> PS: I hope my use of middle name doesn't make me
> seem like a pretentious "preppy"! =A0It's a habit I
> started with the World-wide-web since "James Allen"
> is a *very* common name.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Given your "hint", a puzzle which seemed too hard is now much easier
to unravel. I am writing a short piece to claim to have found a
solution. Am I correct?

---------------
jonnie303, uk

Posted by James Dow Allen on October 22, 2009, 12:03 pm
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> Given your "hint", a puzzle which seemed too hard is now much easier
> to unravel. I am writing a short piece to claim to have found a
> solution. Am I correct?

Yes, yes! Callooh, callay!
John's post satisfies the constraint!!
(Though my response here does not.)
Maybe I *will* post another of these next decade,
after all!

... And I hope you agree mine was orders of magnitude
easier than Mr. Heathfield's (at "#2").

> jonnie303, uk

Well, *almost* satisfied the constraint. Next time
edit your .sig.

James


Posted by ken on October 26, 2009, 5:43 am
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>
> > Given your "hint", a puzzle which seemed too hard is now much easier
> > to unravel. I am writing a short piece to claim to have found a
> > solution. Am I correct?
>
> Yes, yes! =A0Callooh, callay!
> John's post satisfies the constraint!!
> (Though my response here does not.)
> Maybe I *will* post another of these next decade,
> after all!
>
> ... And I hope you agree mine was orders of magnitude
> easier than Mr. Heathfield's (at "#2").
>
> > jonnie303, uk
>
> Well, *almost* satisfied the constraint. =A0Next time
> edit your .sig.
>
> James


I solved it (.....pause for applause.....) too.
But I am finding the proof a bit hard to manage.
I'll try a riddle.
Why did the gnu cross the road?
The gnu wished to see a gnu view.

*almost* ken

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