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Re: Need filter suggestion for cichlid tank George Pontis 09-24-2005
Posted by George Pontis on September 24, 2005, 12:17 pm
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says...
> I have a 75 gallon African tank using a Fluval 404 and a dual biowheel
> powered with a powerhead. There is more than enough filtration (0
> nitirites). Nitrate build up is controled by partial water changes. If you
> want more circulation then I agree with the powerhead. I ran one attached
> to a sponge filter and the sponge gathered more debris than the Fluval.
> Adding another 404 would be, in my opinion, overkill.

Your setup makes a lot of sense to me, and on several occasions I have suggested
the PH-Biowheel combo to others as a very cost effective way of adding
mechanical
and biological filtration. I never really gave it enough consideration for this
tank. One reason may have been that I have been able to move almost all the
technology out of the tank and under the stand. The only thing really visible is
a
dip tube ("Eheim installation set 1").

That said, I finally ordered a second 404 but have not yet received or installed
it. As far as being overkill, I don't think it would be. The specs on the 404
say
340GPH pump, but in further detail admit to only 225 GPH "circulation". So for
an
actual 100G water capacity, two of these could turn over the tank 4.5 times per
hour. That is right in the middle of the 3-6 turns per hour that is often
recommended. One thing is for sure, a single 404 is not enough for this
application.

George (P)

Posted by erik w on March 14, 2006, 3:01 am
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George Pontis wrote:
> says...
>
>>I have a 75 gallon African tank using a Fluval 404 and a dual biowheel
>>powered with a powerhead. There is more than enough filtration (0
>>nitirites). Nitrate build up is controled by partial water changes. If you
>>want more circulation then I agree with the powerhead. I ran one attached
>>to a sponge filter and the sponge gathered more debris than the Fluval.
>>Adding another 404 would be, in my opinion, overkill.
>
>
> Your setup makes a lot of sense to me, and on several occasions I have
suggested
> the PH-Biowheel combo to others as a very cost effective way of adding
mechanical
> and biological filtration. I never really gave it enough consideration for
this
> tank. One reason may have been that I have been able to move almost all the
> technology out of the tank and under the stand. The only thing really visible
is a
> dip tube ("Eheim installation set 1").
>
> That said, I finally ordered a second 404 but have not yet received or
installed
> it. As far as being overkill, I don't think it would be. The specs on the 404
say
> 340GPH pump, but in further detail admit to only 225 GPH "circulation". So for
an
> actual 100G water capacity, two of these could turn over the tank 4.5 times
per
> hour. That is right in the middle of the 3-6 turns per hour that is often
> recommended. One thing is for sure, a single 404 is not enough for this
> application.
>
> George (P)

Wish I had a canister filter. I just have a Emperor 400 for my 75 ga. By
the way it is going to be cool when you get the file not found for
tank. lol. Get it? 404 error: file not found. I am such a nerd!

Erik

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