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Posted by glassman on July 13, 2006, 11:26 pm
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Remember a few months ago when I reported my treatment "cure" for my big
Severums popeye? Someone posted about their vet puncturing around the eye
socket with a syringe to bring down the pressure. I tried it myself, and he
was perfect in everyway in a couple of weeks. Well guess what? It's back,
and worse than ever! He was fine for months. Anyone have a guess as to why?
Maybe just plain old age, and the puncture was temporary?
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Posted by on July 14, 2006, 6:15 am
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> Remember a few months ago when I reported my treatment "cure" for my big
>Severums popeye? Someone posted about their vet puncturing around the eye
>socket with a syringe to bring down the pressure. I tried it myself, and he
>was perfect in everyway in a couple of weeks. Well guess what? It's back,
>and worse than ever! He was fine for months. Anyone have a guess as to why?
>Maybe just plain old age, and the puncture was temporary?
It was me who told you about puncturing around the eye. The problem
may be a recurring infection, it's impossible to tell. Is the water
sparkling clean? The trouble with relieving the pressure is that the
eye becomes more sensitive to infection because the barrier is
punctured. It should have healed completely within a day. Try one
puncture to relieve the pressure again. Make sure the needle is
sterile.
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Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software
EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
http://www.easynn.com
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Posted by Dick on July 14, 2006, 6:22 am
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> Remember a few months ago when I reported my treatment "cure" for my big
>Severums popeye? Someone posted about their vet puncturing around the eye
>socket with a syringe to bring down the pressure. I tried it myself, and he
>was perfect in everyway in a couple of weeks. Well guess what? It's back,
>and worse than ever! He was fine for months. Anyone have a guess as to why?
>Maybe just plain old age, and the puncture was temporary?
Isn't this a case of removing a symptom, not the cause? We take an
anspirin to lower fevers, but that doesn't remove the cause. My best
guess. Doctoring involves a lot of trial and error.
dick
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Posted by on July 14, 2006, 7:53 am
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>wrote:
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>> Remember a few months ago when I reported my treatment "cure" for my big
>>Severums popeye? Someone posted about their vet puncturing around the eye
>>socket with a syringe to bring down the pressure. I tried it myself, and he
>>was perfect in everyway in a couple of weeks. Well guess what? It's back,
>>and worse than ever! He was fine for months. Anyone have a guess as to why?
>>Maybe just plain old age, and the puncture was temporary?
>
>Isn't this a case of removing a symptom, not the cause? We take an
>anspirin to lower fevers, but that doesn't remove the cause. My best
>guess. Doctoring involves a lot of trial and error.
>
Yes, but it's the symptom that causes the fish so much trouble. In my
experience removing the symptom of popeye is permanent. Repeat
infections should be addressed separately.
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Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software
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http://www.easynn.com
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Posted by Dick on July 14, 2006, 10:54 am
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:53:09 +0100, steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk wrote:
>wrote:
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Remember a few months ago when I reported my treatment "cure" for my big
>>>Severums popeye? Someone posted about their vet puncturing around the eye
>>>socket with a syringe to bring down the pressure. I tried it myself, and he
>>>was perfect in everyway in a couple of weeks. Well guess what? It's back,
>>>and worse than ever! He was fine for months. Anyone have a guess as to why?
>>>Maybe just plain old age, and the puncture was temporary?
>>
>>Isn't this a case of removing a symptom, not the cause? We take an
>>anspirin to lower fevers, but that doesn't remove the cause. My best
>>guess. Doctoring involves a lot of trial and error.
>>
>
>Yes, but it's the symptom that causes the fish so much trouble. In my
>experience removing the symptom of popeye is permanent. Repeat
>infections should be addressed separately.
Aren't recurrent symptoms less likely to respond to treatment of the
underlying cause?
I am puzzled by how one fish in a community tank has a problem and the
rest don't. I just assume the sick fish is weaker and don't want to
bother the rest of the community with the stress of treatment.
Especially chasing a fish to move it to a hospital tank. I fear
"stress" related problems more than the death of one fish.
However, I do have to be careful about the above statement. I can
think of a Black Angel that I might get heroic over.
As to community health, about 3 years ago I received (I order
everything over the internet) 7 Clown Loaches. I had them in the tank
before I noticed they all had ick. I had no medicines and had to wait
a week for their arrival. Meanwhile I tried raising the temperature,
blocking out the light with a blanket and anything else I could do as
home remedies. Then another week of treatment. Two of the seven
responded to treatment and the other five I destroyed. (The vendor
sent 9 to replace the 7, so I ended up with 11 Clowns while hearing
stories of their possible maximum growth, uhg.)
At some point I noticed that not one of my community fish had gotten
ick, this in a 75 gallon tank with about 75 fish of 12 species.
dick
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>Severums popeye? Someone posted about their vet puncturing around the eye
>socket with a syringe to bring down the pressure. I tried it myself, and he
>was perfect in everyway in a couple of weeks. Well guess what? It's back,
>and worse than ever! He was fine for months. Anyone have a guess as to why?
>Maybe just plain old age, and the puncture was temporary?