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03-15-2009

Posted by JKconey on March 15, 2009, 11:08 am

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This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like mad,
healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the smallest one
is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo catfish. Water,
temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and killed by the bigger
ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each other around. Any
thoughts?

--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Posted by ReelMcKoi on March 17, 2009, 9:23 pm

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> This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like mad,
> healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the smallest one
> is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo catfish. Water,
> temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and killed by the
> bigger ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each other around.
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> --
> JK
> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>

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Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make suggestions. It
can be so many things that killed your fish I couldn't even guess. That is
from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you didn't mention testing the water) to
the wrong PH (way out of line?), how often you do partial water changes etc.
Anyone reading here would need to know a lot more information before
offering truly helpful advice.
--
RM....
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

Posted by JKconey on March 18, 2009, 4:54 pm

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>> This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like
>> mad, healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the
>> smallest one is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo
>> catfish. Water, temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and
>> killed by the bigger ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each
>> other around. Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>> --
>> JK
>> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>>

> ========================================
> Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make suggestions.
> It can be so many things that killed your fish I couldn't even guess. That
> is from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you didn't mention testing the
> water) to the wrong PH (way out of line?), how often you do partial water
> changes etc. Anyone reading here would need to know a lot more information
> before offering truly helpful advice.
> --
> RM....

As I said the water and temp are all fine, and so are all the other fish.
This guy showed no signs of any issues until he went south? I've never kept
angels before, so I'm wondering if it may be common for them to go after the
smallest, and kill him?

--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Posted by Josser on March 18, 2009, 11:10 pm

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JKconey wrote:

>>> This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating
>>> like mad, healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden
>>> the smallest one is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a
>>> dead tuxedo catfish. Water, temp and such all fine. I wonder if it
>>> was attacked and killed by the bigger ones? They are all mildly
>>> agressive and chase each other around. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JK
>>> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>>>

>> ========================================
>> Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make
>> suggestions. It can be so many things that killed your fish I
>> couldn't even guess. That is from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you
>> didn't mention testing the water) to the wrong PH (way out of
>> line?), how often you do partial water changes etc. Anyone reading
>> here would need to know a lot more information before offering truly
>> helpful advice. --
>> RM....

>
>
>
> As I said the water and temp are all fine, and so are all the other
> fish. This guy showed no signs of any issues until he went south? I've
> never kept angels before, so I'm wondering if it may be common
> for them to go after the smallest, and kill him?

Yes, when they pair-up to think about mating, they chase away the other
angels. The aquarium is smaller than the comfort zone for the mating pair
and the other angels have no where to go, so they get chased (stressed) to
death. Healthy angels can start mating at 6 months. 2 mating pairs can be in
a heavily planted 6 ft (2 meter) tank. But there must be thick enough
planting that they can not see each other all of the time. If one of the
females later rejects her mate in favor of the other male, she and her new
mate will kill both of the others.

Posted by ReelMcKoi on March 19, 2009, 8:11 am

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>>> This one puzzles me. I had 6 angels for a few months all eating like
>>> mad, healthy and growing in leaps and bounds. All of a sudden the
>>> smallest one is laying on the gravel dead. Next to it is a dead tuxedo
>>> catfish. Water, temp and such all fine. I wonder if it was attacked and
>>> killed by the bigger ones? They are all mildly agressive and chase each
>>> other around. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> JK
>>> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>>>

>> ========================================
>> Hi, I don't think this group has anyone left to help or make suggestions.
>> It can be so many things that killed your fish I couldn't even guess.
>> That is from ammonia/nitrite in the water (you didn't mention testing the
>> water) to the wrong PH (way out of line?), how often you do partial water
>> changes etc. Anyone reading here would need to know a lot more
>> information before offering truly helpful advice.
>> --
>> RM....

>
>
>
> As I said the water and temp are all fine, and so are all the other
> fish. This guy showed no signs of any issues until he went south? I've
> never kept angels before, so I'm wondering if it may be common for them to
> go after the smallest, and kill him?

Yes, they will definitely kill the smallest and weakest, especially if two
paired off and want to breed. A mated pair must be removed or the others
removed. I stopped keeping them for just this very reason. They get along
fine as youngsters but as soon as sexual maturity hits, all hell breaks
loose.

>
> --
> JK
> www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
>
>

--
RM....
~~~~ }<((((*> ~~~ }<{{{{(ö>

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