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Posted by Tynk on January 11, 2008, 11:16 am
Please log in for more thread options > Tynk said the following on 1/11/2008 8:35 AM:
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> >> BarrRep...@gmail.com said the following on 1/11/2008 2:03 AM:
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> >>>> That is the first time, in 20 years, that I have ever read, heard or
> >>>> been told that fish produce ammonia simply by breathing.
> >>> Yep, take a look at any fish aquaculture text, or fish physiology
> >>> book.
> >>> Ammonia excretion from the gill in teleost fish is essential for
> >>> nitrogen elimination.
> >>> Gills are used for "breathing".
> >>> Here's a bit more in depth discussion from a text that covers the
> >>> basics:
> >>>http://books.google.com/books?id=3D8xwVaWUiC5wC&pg=3DPA20&lpg=3DPA20&dq=
=3Damm...
> >>> Enjoy
> >> Thank you.
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> >>> Now consider the toxicity of NH4 and it's algae producing abilities.
> >>> Zeolite, plants and water changes seem pretty good about now.
> >> That was one of the underlying reasons for me trying to get my 55 gallo=
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> >> tank planted. I was in Petsmart and saw a bag of substrate for plants.
> >> It would have taken 4 bags to get a 2" layer in my 55 at 30 dollars a
> >> bag. My wife would kill me and feed me to my fish if I spent 130 dollar=
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> >> on substrate for plants. I asked why the drastic price of it and the
> >> only thing we found different, from the bag, is that it was "Clay based=
> >> gravel". I found an article somewhere, I can't find it again, where the=
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> >> discussed using kitty litter for the substrate. I tried an experiment i=
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> >> a 5 gallon bucket with a non-clumping clay based kitty litter. It looks=
> >> like mud now.
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> >> Any alternatives for a good substrate for plants short of expensive?
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> > There is two perfectly good substrates for FW planted tanks that is
> > readily available.......less than $7 per 20 pound bag =A0
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> =A0From where?
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> > There is not such thing as clay based gravel dude! either its clay
> > or its gravel..........
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> I am not going to have that debate.
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> Randy
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Hah......too much trouble to defend your statements huh.lazy ass! I
swear you sound like your related to TYNK.........Are you perhaps the
one without the dick? I bet you, unlike your sibling TYNK squats to
pee!
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> been told that fish produce ammonia simply by breathing.
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> Randy
> Chance Favors The Prepared Mind