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Posted by AquariumFatasies on December 26, 2007, 8:30 am
Please log in for more thread options RM...........The way to do this treatment is shut off all filters and
powerheads. Fill syringe with HP and reaching inside tank flow the HP
on the affected plants leaves.........150-200 cc can be used. Flow HP
on any affected areas, filter outlets, plants, gravel etc
etc..............wait a few minutes until you see the treated areas
start to fizzle or produce tiny streams of bubbles............then
turn off the lights as HP's life is shortened drastically by light.
(Thats why its shipped in a brown container) and in approx 5 to 10
minutes restart minimal circulation / filtration............Treatment
can be repeated as many times as needed until its eliminated. ONce
treated you will notice the origianl black areas turn to a pink
color........just let it be, and in a few days this new "pink" algae
will just slough off and get picked up by the filter media. The pink
is killed algae and is harmless.
There is a few plants that do not tolerate this very well but you
really have nothing to lose since the plant is doomed anyhow once
black algae gets on it as there really is no other way to kill the
algae without killing said plant............most plants hjowever do
handle HP just fine..but you may find some leaves that appear to be
eaten away or just have the veins of the leaf left and all green
l;eafy matter is missing. That was just part and parcel of the effects
of the black algae as it was killing the soft tissue and it was
history anyhow............Don't despair, if some plants appear to be
melted away as odds are they will recoup, and regenerate new growth
just fine. My tank IIRC looked like a war zone for about 1 week
afterwards, but I applied HP at a very high liberal rate and had huge
amazon swords and madagascar lace plants, anubia, ludwiga, cobomba,
hornwart and vals in the tank, I had treated my cichlid tank first off
and then my community tank as well........fish involved were typical
mBunas, neons, corys, pleco and angels and some guppies.......all came
out ok except for a guppy or two, and I am not so sure it was HP that
caused their demise as they were older females that I had for some
time.
Leave filtration and circulation off for as long as you can without
stressing the fish.......any HP that enters intothe overall water
column will work on any other black algae in the tank , but its much
slower and takes a lot longer and odds are will not do as good as
direct flow on of HP with a syringe....The more you can flowo n at a
time the better thats why I say a 50 or 60 cc syringe is best in place
of the smaller 5 or 10 cc ones.............You'll see it start to work
when bubbnles start to form and stream off.....and the longer you can
go without any current flow or filtration the better off. You can
also pull affected plants and flow HP on them outside the tank, allow
to remain damp for a bit, and then replace into the aquarium.
Regards
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Posted by on December 26, 2007, 3:58 pm
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> RM...........The way to do this treatment is shut off all filters and
> powerheads. Fill syringe with HP and reaching inside tank flow the HP
> on the affected plants leaves.........150-200 cc can be used. Flow HP
> on any affected areas, filter outlets, plants, gravel etc
> etc..............wait a few minutes until you see the treated areas
> start to fizzle or produce tiny streams of bubbles............then
> turn off the lights as HP's life is shortened drastically by light.
> (Thats why its shipped in a brown container) and in approx 5 to 10
> minutes restart minimal circulation / filtration............Treatment
> can be repeated as many times as needed until its eliminated. ONce
> treated you will notice the origianl black areas turn to a pink
> color........just let it be, and in a few days this new "pink" algae
> will just slough off and get picked up by the filter media. The pink
> is killed algae and is harmless.
>
> There is a few plants that do not tolerate this very well but you
> really have nothing to lose since the plant is doomed anyhow once
> black algae gets on it as there really is no other way to kill the
> algae without killing said plant............most plants hjowever do
> handle HP just fine..but you may find some leaves that appear to be
> eaten away or just have the veins of the leaf left and all green
> l;eafy matter is missing. That was just part and parcel of the effects
> of the black algae as it was killing the soft tissue and it was
> history anyhow............Don't despair, if some plants appear to be
> melted away as odds are they will recoup, and regenerate new growth
> just fine. My tank IIRC looked like a war zone for about 1 week
> afterwards, but I applied HP at a very high liberal rate and had huge
> amazon swords and madagascar lace plants, anubia, ludwiga, cobomba,
> hornwart and vals in the tank, I had treated my cichlid tank first off
> and then my community tank as well........fish involved were typical
> mBunas, neons, corys, pleco and angels and some guppies.......all came
> out ok except for a guppy or two, and I am not so sure it was HP that
> caused their demise as they were older females that I had for some
> time.
>
> Leave filtration and circulation off for as long as you can without
> stressing the fish.......any HP that enters intothe overall water
> column will work on any other black algae in the tank , but its much
> slower and takes a lot longer and odds are will not do as good as
> direct flow on of HP with a syringe....The more you can flowo n at a
> time the better thats why I say a 50 or 60 cc syringe is best in place
> of the smaller 5 or 10 cc ones.............You'll see it start to work
> when bubbnles start to form and stream off.....and the longer you can
> go without any current flow or filtration the better off. You can
> also pull affected plants and flow HP on them outside the tank, allow
> to remain damp for a bit, and then replace into the aquarium.
>
> Regards
2 H2O2 $B"*(B 2 H2O + O2
The effects of putting hydrogen peroxide into an aquarium is simply a
short term increase in the amount of oxygen in the tank. You may be
treating the symptoms, but you're not curing the disease. Algae will
grow whenever the conditions are good for the algae.
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Posted by AquariumFatasies on December 26, 2007, 4:37 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Dec 26, 2:58 pm, gbost...@excite.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > RM...........The way to do this treatment is shut off all filters and
> > powerheads. Fill syringe with HP and reaching inside tank flow the HP
> > on the affected plants leaves.........150-200 cc can be used. Flow HP
> > on any affected areas, filter outlets, plants, gravel etc
> > etc..............wait a few minutes until you see the treated areas
> > start to fizzle or produce tiny streams of bubbles............then
> > turn off the lights as HP's life is shortened drastically by light.
> > (Thats why its shipped in a brown container) and in approx 5 to 10
> > minutes restart minimal circulation / filtration............Treatment
> > can be repeated as many times as needed until its eliminated. ONce
> > treated you will notice the origianl black areas turn to a pink
> > color........just let it be, and in a few days this new "pink" algae
> > will just slough off and get picked up by the filter media. The pink
> > is killed algae and is harmless.
>
> > There is a few plants that do not tolerate this very well but you
> > really have nothing to lose since the plant is doomed anyhow once
> > black algae gets on it as there really is no other way to kill the
> > algae without killing said plant............most plants hjowever do
> > handle HP just fine..but you may find some leaves that appear to be
> > eaten away or just have the veins of the leaf left and all green
> > l;eafy matter is missing. That was just part and parcel of the effects
> > of the black algae as it was killing the soft tissue and it was
> > history anyhow............Don't despair, if some plants appear to be
> > melted away as odds are they will recoup, and regenerate new growth
> > just fine. My tank IIRC looked like a war zone for about 1 week
> > afterwards, but I applied HP at a very high liberal rate and had huge
> > amazon swords and madagascar lace plants, anubia, ludwiga, cobomba,
> > hornwart and vals in the tank, I had treated my cichlid tank first off
> > and then my community tank as well........fish involved were typical
> > mBunas, neons, corys, pleco and angels and some guppies.......all came
> > out ok except for a guppy or two, and I am not so sure it was HP that
> > caused their demise as they were older females that I had for some
> > time.
>
> > Leave filtration and circulation off for as long as you can without
> > stressing the fish.......any HP that enters intothe overall water
> > column will work on any other black algae in the tank , but its much
> > slower and takes a lot longer and odds are will not do as good as
> > direct flow on of HP with a syringe....The more you can flowo n at a
> > time the better thats why I say a 50 or 60 cc syringe is best in place
> > of the smaller 5 or 10 cc ones.............You'll see it start to work
> > when bubbnles start to form and stream off.....and the longer you can
> > go without any current flow or filtration the better off. You can
> > also pull affected plants and flow HP on them outside the tank, allow
> > to remain damp for a bit, and then replace into the aquarium.
>
> > Regards
>
> 2 H2O2 $B"*(B 2 H2O + O2
>
> The effects of putting hydrogen peroxide into an aquarium is simply a
> short term increase in the amount of oxygen in the tank. You may be
> treating the symptoms, but you're not curing the disease. Algae will
> grow whenever the conditions are good for the algae.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Perhaps......but this is one way to erradicate it............and its
certainly a step in the right direction........since short of tossing
the plants there is no other process to eliminate it. Once eliminated
one still needs to ensure proper lights, lighting schedule and
parameters are in effect or it will come back again............Its a
treatment that does work for erradicating black algae. Its nio
different that say treating a fish for a disease that was caused by
something that could have been prevented and then not fixing the
situation that caused it in the first place...........I know I
erradicated it in my tanks and its never made a return since.......so
I have to think it treated more than the symtoms.
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Posted by Reel McKoi on December 26, 2007, 7:49 pm
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> On Dec 26, 2:58 pm, gbost...@excite.com wrote:
> Perhaps......but this is one way to erradicate it............and its
> certainly a step in the right direction........since short of tossing
> the plants there is no other process to eliminate it. Once eliminated
> one still needs to ensure proper lights, lighting schedule and
> parameters are in effect or it will come back again............Its a
> treatment that does work for erradicating black algae. Its nio
> different that say treating a fish for a disease that was caused by
> something that could have been prevented and then not fixing the
> situation that caused it in the first place...........I know I
> erradicated it in my tanks and its never made a return since.......so
> I have to think it treated more than the symtoms.
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If I remove the worst plants and put them in the small tank I can use PP to
kill the darn stuff if HP doesn't do it.
--
RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Posted by AquariumFatasies on December 26, 2007, 9:37 pm
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On Dec 26, 2:58 pm, gbost...@excite.com wrote:
> > Perhaps......but this is one way to erradicate it............and its
> > certainly a step in the right direction........since short of tossing
> > the plants there is no other process to eliminate it. Once eliminated
> > one still needs to ensure proper lights, lighting schedule and
> > parameters are in effect or it will come back again............Its a
> > treatment that does work for erradicating black algae. Its nio
> > different that say treating a fish for a disease that was caused by
> > something that could have been prevented and then not fixing the
> > situation that caused it in the first place...........I know I
> > erradicated it in my tanks and its never made a return since.......so
> > I have to think it treated more than =A0the symtoms.
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> If I remove the worst plants and put them in the small tank I can use PP t=
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> kill the darn stuff if HP doesn't do it.
> --
>
> RM....
> Zone 6. =A0Middle TN USA
> ~~~~ =A0}<((((*> =A0~~~ =A0 }<{{{{(o>
Rain water sounds all fine and dandy, but rain water also contain a
plethora of all kinds of stuff some of which may fuel algae quicker
than normal. Not saying not to use it, but I persopnally would use
readily available means to buffer or adjust my PH than using rain
water if it was at all possible. Adding peat pillows will bring the
water down in ph and adding aragonite (calcium based sand ) will take
it up in PH........So it is all together feasible that you are feeding
the algae with the water your collecting..Take a parameter here and
there and they all add up to potential problems.......Its common
knowledge and accepted that dust that gets blown in a pond causes
algae blooms..........and dust certainly has all kinds of stuff in it
and its on a roof or in the air and it will wind up in rain water one
way or another.
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> powerheads. Fill syringe with HP and reaching inside tank flow the HP
> on the affected plants leaves.........150-200 cc can be used. Flow HP
> on any affected areas, filter outlets, plants, gravel etc
> etc..............wait a few minutes until you see the treated areas
> start to fizzle or produce tiny streams of bubbles............then
> turn off the lights as HP's life is shortened drastically by light.
> (Thats why its shipped in a brown container) and in approx 5 to 10
> minutes restart minimal circulation / filtration............Treatment
> can be repeated as many times as needed until its eliminated. ONce
> treated you will notice the origianl black areas turn to a pink
> color........just let it be, and in a few days this new "pink" algae
> will just slough off and get picked up by the filter media. The pink
> is killed algae and is harmless.
>
> There is a few plants that do not tolerate this very well but you
> really have nothing to lose since the plant is doomed anyhow once
> black algae gets on it as there really is no other way to kill the
> algae without killing said plant............most plants hjowever do
> handle HP just fine..but you may find some leaves that appear to be
> eaten away or just have the veins of the leaf left and all green
> l;eafy matter is missing. That was just part and parcel of the effects
> of the black algae as it was killing the soft tissue and it was
> history anyhow............Don't despair, if some plants appear to be
> melted away as odds are they will recoup, and regenerate new growth
> just fine. My tank IIRC looked like a war zone for about 1 week
> afterwards, but I applied HP at a very high liberal rate and had huge
> amazon swords and madagascar lace plants, anubia, ludwiga, cobomba,
> hornwart and vals in the tank, I had treated my cichlid tank first off
> and then my community tank as well........fish involved were typical
> mBunas, neons, corys, pleco and angels and some guppies.......all came
> out ok except for a guppy or two, and I am not so sure it was HP that
> caused their demise as they were older females that I had for some
> time.
>
> Leave filtration and circulation off for as long as you can without
> stressing the fish.......any HP that enters intothe overall water
> column will work on any other black algae in the tank , but its much
> slower and takes a lot longer and odds are will not do as good as
> direct flow on of HP with a syringe....The more you can flowo n at a
> time the better thats why I say a 50 or 60 cc syringe is best in place
> of the smaller 5 or 10 cc ones.............You'll see it start to work
> when bubbnles start to form and stream off.....and the longer you can
> go without any current flow or filtration the better off. You can
> also pull affected plants and flow HP on them outside the tank, allow
> to remain damp for a bit, and then replace into the aquarium.
>
> Regards