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Posted by atomweaver on July 19, 2007, 10:03 am
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>> This is so true. Where does it leave us? I'll continue to use the fish
>> foods I have, but sure wouldn't buy anything made in China.
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> You also need to consider that just like certain ingredients in foods,
> many things are made with "parts" from other countries.
> So, even though they're being made in the US, they could actually be
> 100% non American.
> Yrs back we had a '93 Chevy Corsica. Something broke down and needed
> replacing. I forget what it was, but the old part was made of metal
> and the new part was nearly all plastic, and made in China. Buncha
> crap it was, that's for sure.
> Refusing to buy anything made in China is going to be quite a
> challange.
> One thing I won't stop buying, is Hikari frozen fish foods. It's the
> best on the market right now.
> Even the largest competitor's (Sally's -- San Fran Bay brand) can't
> hold a candle to it.
> I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
> however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
> Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
> don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
> or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.
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>
"Product of China" means that the content is fully Chinese in origin. I
don't think it matters much in the case of Hikari frozen food, there's
almost nothing you need to do to seafood to preserve it, other than freeze
it quickly after processing, and keep your processing machinery clean.
If anyone is interested, melamine was discovered in US commerical fish-farm
feedstock, but didn't cause as much of a stir in that industry, as the
concentrations were much much lower. I don't know of any tropical pellet
or flake maker who has been a part of that supply chain.
In fisheries, the supply chain parties were;
- Ziegler (a feed maker for commercial fisheries, whose tainted product was
a shrimp pellet, which had binders and fillers in it)
- Uniscope (a company which made the binder, and sold it to Ziegler)
- Trembec (a Canadian company which made a resin, containing melamine,
which Uniscope used to make its binder)
If anyone ends up calling their fish food supplier, you can ask if any of
these three companies are suppliers to your food vendor.
Regards,
DaveZ
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Posted by Tynk on July 20, 2007, 1:23 am
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> >> ====================================
> >> This is so true. Where does it leave us? I'll continue to use the fish
> >> foods I have, but sure wouldn't buy anything made in China.
>
> > You also need to consider that just like certain ingredients in foods,
> > many things are made with "parts" from other countries.
> > So, even though they're being made in the US, they could actually be
> > 100% non American.
> > Yrs back we had a '93 Chevy Corsica. Something broke down and needed
> > replacing. I forget what it was, but the old part was made of metal
> > and the new part was nearly all plastic, and made in China. Buncha
> > crap it was, that's for sure.
> > Refusing to buy anything made in China is going to be quite a
> > challange.
> > One thing I won't stop buying, is Hikari frozen fish foods. It's the
> > best on the market right now.
> > Even the largest competitor's (Sally's -- San Fran Bay brand) can't
> > hold a candle to it.
> > I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
> > however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
> > Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
> > don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
> > or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.
>
> "Product of China" means that the content is fully Chinese in origin. I
> don't think it matters much in the case of Hikari frozen food, there's
> almost nothing you need to do to seafood to preserve it, other than freeze
> it quickly after processing, and keep your processing machinery clean.
>
> If anyone is interested, melamine was discovered in US commerical fish-farm
> feedstock, but didn't cause as much of a stir in that industry, as the
> concentrations were much much lower. I don't know of any tropical pellet
> or flake maker who has been a part of that supply chain.
>
> In fisheries, the supply chain parties were;
> - Ziegler (a feed maker for commercial fisheries, whose tainted product was
> a shrimp pellet, which had binders and fillers in it)
> - Uniscope (a company which made the binder, and sold it to Ziegler)
> - Trembec (a Canadian company which made a resin, containing melamine,
> which Uniscope used to make its binder)
>
> If anyone ends up calling their fish food supplier, you can ask if any of
> these three companies are suppliers to your food vendor.
>
> Regards,
> DaveZ- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
Thanks for that info, Dave!
I'm sure it'll help many folks out.
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Posted by Reel McKoi on July 22, 2007, 12:53 pm
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> I checked the back of the package and it says "Product of China",
> however, above it-- It says Hikari USA...and has a California address.
> Without calling the directly, which they do have an 800 # listed, I
> don't know whether the ones we have in the US are made in California,
> or if the packaging is..or vice versa. It doesn't say.
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Since it says product of China, I would assume the food was produced there -
hopefully under the watchful eyes of Hikari.
Avoiding any kind of food stuff from China may be difficult, but I'm willing
to give it a go.
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Posted by Tynk on July 24, 2007, 10:15 am
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> Since it says product of China, I would assume the food was produced there -
> hopefully under the watchful eyes of Hikari.
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> Avoiding any kind of food stuff from China may be difficult, but I'm willing
> to give it a go.
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Well I'm not giving up Hikari frozen foods, that's for sure.
The only thing that would even get me to consider it would be another
brand having the same quality.
So far, none of them come even close, hands down.
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Posted by Nick Chan on July 30, 2007, 6:28 am
Please log in for more thread options Hi even us chinese are wary of chinese made foods, even before the
toothpaste issue
> With all the conflab recently about tainted pet food and
> toothpaste imported from China, I started to wonder how toxic the
> frozen brine shrimp, bloodworms, etc also manufactured and packaged
> there might be to our fish.
> I asked at my LFS, and they said that, although made in China,
> the brand they carried was "sterilized" (Hmmm.). I note that the
> "Frostbites" brand carried by Walmart also originates in China.
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> Just wondering...
> Blair.
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