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Posted by humBill on March 14, 2005, 3:08 pm
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I have a 10 gal tank with 4 platies and 1 molly - al but one is male. In
the past 3-5 days I have noticed the molly has a nearly transparent poop
trail and is not eating. It is a bit more isolationist than norm, but all
in all acts pretty normal. At feed time it will swim around a bit but not
eat. Nitrates are 20-30 but I am reducing them through water changes now.
Am, Nitrites - 0. pH 7.6, kH & gH both around 120, temp 78. I do salt
lightly (1 TBS every 2nd or 3rd 25% weekly water change.) We do feed
mostly flake food and there have been two 'batches' of fry in the last 3
weeks of which only 1 was seen/survived about 3 weeks ago and 2 the last
week. Not sure if the molly was the mom, though she has gotten smaller (fry
or not eating?). I doubt this is an external parasite/bact problem.
I would appreciate any suggestions about how to proceed.
Thanxx
Bill
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Posted by anemone on March 15, 2005, 1:55 am
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if the white poop is sort of zigzaggy, its expelled absorbed eggs. If it is
straight white and encased in mucous, its an internal bacterial infection,
this with bubbles, food is bad and fermented in stomach. Try change the
food. Food does go off if not stored properly.
>I have a 10 gal tank with 4 platies and 1 molly - al but one is male. In
>the past 3-5 days I have noticed the molly has a nearly transparent poop
>trail and is not eating. It is a bit more isolationist than norm, but all
>in all acts pretty normal. At feed time it will swim around a bit but not
>eat. Nitrates are 20-30 but I am reducing them through water changes now.
>Am, Nitrites - 0. pH 7.6, kH & gH both around 120, temp 78. I do salt
>lightly (1 TBS every 2nd or 3rd 25% weekly water change.) We do feed
>mostly flake food and there have been two 'batches' of fry in the last 3
>weeks of which only 1 was seen/survived about 3 weeks ago and 2 the last
>week. Not sure if the molly was the mom, though she has gotten smaller
>(fry or not eating?). I doubt this is an external parasite/bact problem.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions about how to proceed.
>
> Thanxx
> Bill
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Posted by Elaine T on March 15, 2005, 6:26 am
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anemone wrote:
> if the white poop is sort of zigzaggy, its expelled absorbed eggs. If it is
> straight white and encased in mucous, its an internal bacterial infection,
> this with bubbles, food is bad and fermented in stomach. Try change the
> food. Food does go off if not stored properly.
I can't find "expelled absorbed eggs" as a diagnosis anywhere in
Untergasser's Handbook of Fish Diseases or the Manual of Fish Health.
Could you please provide a reference for that?
Stringy, clear poop that trails behind the fish with no rectal
inflammation can be caused by a bacterial, flagellate, or worm infection
according to Untergasser. He says the only way to tell which one is to
look a fresh mount of the feces under a microscope.
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Posted by humBill on March 15, 2005, 12:09 pm
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> if the white poop is sort of zigzaggy, its expelled absorbed eggs. If it
> is straight white and encased in mucous, its an internal bacterial
> infection, this with bubbles, food is bad and fermented in stomach. Try
> change the food. Food does go off if not stored properly.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm leaning towards the food and more salt.
The poop is not white. It is almost absolutely clear. You have to kinda
'catch a glimpse' to see it at all.
Bill
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Posted by Elaine T on March 15, 2005, 5:48 am
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> I have a 10 gal tank with 4 platies and 1 molly - al but one is male. In
> the past 3-5 days I have noticed the molly has a nearly transparent poop
> trail and is not eating. It is a bit more isolationist than norm, but all
> in all acts pretty normal. At feed time it will swim around a bit but not
> eat. Nitrates are 20-30 but I am reducing them through water changes now.
> Am, Nitrites - 0. pH 7.6, kH & gH both around 120, temp 78. I do salt
> lightly (1 TBS every 2nd or 3rd 25% weekly water change.) We do feed
> mostly flake food and there have been two 'batches' of fry in the last 3
> weeks of which only 1 was seen/survived about 3 weeks ago and 2 the last
> week. Not sure if the molly was the mom, though she has gotten smaller (fry
> or not eating?). I doubt this is an external parasite/bact problem.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions about how to proceed.
>
> Thanxx
> Bill
>
>
I'd start with more salt. Some people successfully keep mollies in
freshwater, but I've only been able to keep them alive in 1 tsp/gallon
salt or more. You don't mention what kind you have, but sailfin mollies
are really brakish water fish and can even live in saltwater. If you
don't have plants, go all the way to 1 tbsp/gallon salt over 2-3 days.
You also need to feed mollies veggie food regularly. If you have been
feeding a standard protein-rich flake, your mollie's diet may be part of
the problem.
Try removing the carbon from your filter and adding a dose of copper to
the water in case he has copper-sensitive parasites. (Add copper and
salt with water changes to keep the dose the same.) You could also
raise temps to 82 but watch your platies for signs of stress between
salt and high temps.
Your fish is pretty sick, but hopefully the salt and water changes
you're already doing will help. If he starts eating again, feed a good
spirulina flake for half of the diet - your platies will appreciate it
as well.
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>the past 3-5 days I have noticed the molly has a nearly transparent poop
>trail and is not eating. It is a bit more isolationist than norm, but all
>in all acts pretty normal. At feed time it will swim around a bit but not
>eat. Nitrates are 20-30 but I am reducing them through water changes now.
>Am, Nitrites - 0. pH 7.6, kH & gH both around 120, temp 78. I do salt
>lightly (1 TBS every 2nd or 3rd 25% weekly water change.) We do feed
>mostly flake food and there have been two 'batches' of fry in the last 3
>weeks of which only 1 was seen/survived about 3 weeks ago and 2 the last
>week. Not sure if the molly was the mom, though she has gotten smaller
>(fry or not eating?). I doubt this is an external parasite/bact problem.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions about how to proceed.
>
> Thanxx
> Bill
>
>