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Need opinions........... Melafix Reel McKoi 04-14-2008
Posted by Reel McKoi on April 14, 2008, 5:35 pm
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I picked up Melafix and Pimafix this week. What have you had the most
success with? Using both together or using one at a time,... or alternating
them on different days?


Posted by ExPat on April 15, 2008, 10:28 am
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> I picked up Melafix and Pimafix this week. What have you had the most
> success with? Using both together or using one at a time,... or alternatin=
g
> them on different days?

Not using any of them at all and keeping my monwey in my pocket and
not spending it on snake oil like those two items are. I did a semi
scientific experiiment a few years backwith Melafix and it came in
dead last and it did not contribute nothing but DOC's to my water and
compound the fish problems I was dealing with. You will be ahead using
PP or salt and obtiaing good water chanmages and parameters. I am not
the only one that played with these two items, as some well known foks
in the koi and goldie world also did the same basic experiment and
came to the same conclusions...High priced snake oil . I not only ran
the test one time but did it two times. over a period of 8 weeks per
test period, and each time involved buying 200+ fungal and sick common
comets from Petco and Petsmart......Depending on what the problem is
depends on what is needed, (antibiotics, oxidizers, etc etc) but one
thing is for certainits not Mela or Pima fix's that is needed in any
wqay shape form or fashion. Yes, you'll hear folks swear by it, but
they just lucked out and the so called Fix's had nothing at all to dow
ith the problem being solved as it was other issues that did that
contributed to the cure not the mela or pima crap/.

Posted by Reel McKoi on April 15, 2008, 10:51 am
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Not using any of them at all and keeping my monwey in my pocket and
not spending it on snake oil like those two items are. I did a semi
scientific experiiment a few years backwith Melafix and it came in
dead last and it did not contribute nothing but DOC's to my water and
compound the fish problems I was dealing with. You will be ahead using
PP or salt and obtiaing good water chanmages and parameters. I am not
the only one that played with these two items, as some well known foks
in the koi and goldie world also did the same basic experiment and
came to the same conclusions...High priced snake oil . I not only ran
the test one time but did it two times. over a period of 8 weeks per
test period, and each time involved buying 200+ fungal and sick common
comets from Petco and Petsmart......Depending on what the problem is
depends on what is needed, (antibiotics, oxidizers, etc etc) but one
thing is for certainits not Mela or Pima fix's that is needed in any
wqay shape form or fashion. Yes, you'll hear folks swear by it, but
they just lucked out and the so called Fix's had nothing at all to dow
ith the problem being solved as it was other issues that did that
contributed to the cure not the mela or pima crap/.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Thanks for your imput. I suspected it might be snake oil. I only tried
Melafix one time before. One of the water-bubble-eye GF outside got really
beat up during spawing and was developing furry "stuff" on places where the
most serious injuries were. I mean her fins were shredded. I brought her in
and used Melafix and it did work (or coincidence maybe?). I could see the
difference in 24 hours. But I don't know if what attacked her ripped fins
was fungal or bacterial. It's very difficult to measure PP for a 10g
hospital tank. I've had mixed results using salt. I never had good results
using those fungal chemicals and as you know, most bacteria are immune to
the antibiotics off the shelves.

Is PP still available online? I thought I read it can no longer be shipped.
I have a stash left for the ponds so I'm all set for next few years.




Posted by ExPat on April 15, 2008, 1:11 pm
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>
> Not using any of them at all and keeping my monwey in my pocket and
> not spending it on snake oil like those two items are. I did a semi
> scientific experiiment a few years backwith Melafix and it came in
> dead last and it did not contribute nothing but DOC's to my water and
> compound the fish problems I was dealing with. You will be ahead using
> PP or salt and obtiaing good water chanmages and parameters. I am not
> the only one that played with these two items, as some well known foks
> in the koi and goldie world also did the same =A0basic experiment and
> came to the same conclusions...High priced snake oil . I not only ran
> the test one time but did it two times. over a period of 8 weeks per
> test period, and each time involved buying 200+ fungal and sick common
> comets from Petco and Petsmart......Depending on what the problem is
> depends on what is needed, (antibiotics, oxidizers, etc etc) but one
> thing is for certainits not Mela or Pima fix's that is needed in any
> wqay shape form or fashion. Yes, you'll hear folks swear by it, but
> they just lucked out and the so called Fix's had nothing at all to dow
> ith the problem being solved as it was other issues that did that
> contributed to the cure not the mela or pima crap/.
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Thanks for your imput. I suspected it might be snake oil. I only tried
> Melafix one time before. One of the water-bubble-eye GF outside got really=

> beat up during spawing and was developing furry "stuff" on places where th=
e
> most serious injuries were. =A0I mean her fins were shredded. I brought he=
r in
> and used Melafix and it did work (or coincidence maybe?). I could see the
> difference in 24 hours. But I don't know if what attacked her ripped fins
> was fungal or bacterial. It's very difficult to measure PP for a 10g
> hospital tank. I've had mixed results using salt. =A0I never had good resu=
lts
> using those fungal chemicals and as you know, most bacteria are immune to
> the antibiotics off the shelves.
>
> Is PP still available online? =A0I thought I read it can no longer be ship=
ped.
> I have a stash left for the ponds so I'm all set for next few years.

PP is getting harder and harder top buy and have shipped due to all
the dope heads using it in the manufacture of meth. as well as it does
have potential for bomb building........or at least the making of an
incendiary device. (try a spoon full of PP on a handfull of sawdust or
wood chips or even newspaper and add a couple of drops of brake fluid
of glycerin or diesel fuel to it and see what happens) Almost instant
fire erupts) AES (Aquatic Eco Systems) still sells it, but the
hazmat shhipping charges are double what the PP costs. Don;t know if
Doc Eric Johnson still sells it or not. You may luck up and find some
still at Lowes etc in the pond supplies, (forget what they call it but
its not PP ) and in some areas you may still find it in the water
softener departments at big box stores or even Sears. I probably have
150-200 pounds of it yet in 55# pails, and can buy it locally at a
industrial chemical supplier in town. I normally use 60-80 pounds of
it at a time when I use it on our natural ponds....and of course we
always keep a stock solution of it around for use in the fish tanks.
Normaly we make and keep a 1 or 2 gal jug of it made up for quick
use) A stock solution will keep for a year easily if kept out of
sunlight and kept cool. When it gets close to being expired we just
use it to "clean" the preforms outside or dump it into one of the mud
ponds.

Posted by Tynk on April 15, 2008, 11:43 am
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> Not using any of them at all and keeping my monwey in my pocket and
> not spending it on snake oil like those two items are.

I don't use them on anything either.
I wouldn't call them snake oil, because that would mean they were 100%
benign. They do help a little in the healing process, but it's not a
cure for a disease.
It's not a medication and people makes the mistake of using it as
such. Of course the labeling on the products doesn't help.




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