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Posted by Mister Gardener on April 21, 2006, 6:42 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:42:02 GMT, "David McDermott"
>I am starting a new 10 gal tank (it's almost 2 weeks old). Just wondering
>if it advisable to clean the filter at all during cycling or just leave it
>be? Thus far it is showing now signs of clogging so I'm thinking I should
>just leave it. Any thoughts? Will it need at least a quick rinsing during
>the cycle?
>
>Also it is a Whisper filter and I am new to that brand. What is the best
>way to clean those and replace the media without losing the bacteria? I've
>read over a few different strategies on this and some seem to require
>advanced surgical skills to pull off. I'm already kind of questioning my
>decision to get the whisper, but surely there is an easier way to clean
>them...
>
This is the second time today I've run across a new Whisper owner. My
first advice is RTFM, (read the fine manual). I don't mean to be
caustic, but the instructions that came with the filter are really
pretty thorough. Your Whisper comes with a brown flat sponge, around
post card size, maybe 3/8 - 1/2 inch thick. That sponge slides in
between the white biobag and the waterfall outlet into the tank. The
sponge fits in a black plastic frame, though them may be blue these
days. The sides of the sponge are slightly angled, so it only fits one
way in its frame. There is no need to do anything with the sponge,
perhaps a rinse in used tank water once or twice a year. This sponge
contains the majority of your "good" bacteria. Regarding cleaning the
filter, I guess I don't understand what you think needs to be cleaned.
The white filter "biobag" is installed right behind the brown sponge,
and the biobag is lifted out and rinsed in old tank water or disposed
of and replaced once a month, your choice. The bag slides on and off a
thin black plastic frame, don't wash the frame, it contains bacteria
too, and the new bag is held in place with a little clip on the top.
There is nothing else to clean. The remainder of the filter should not
need a cleaning . . . I clean mine before putting it in storage after
it's been in use for 5 or 10 years. I can't think of any filter than
needs frequent cleaning, other than replacement of the filter media,
which is usually floss bags and carbon.
-- Mister Gardener
Everything Aquaria & Tropical Fish at The Krib:
http://faq.thekrib.com/
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Posted by Frederick B. Henry Jr. on April 21, 2006, 7:32 pm
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> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:42:02 GMT, "David McDermott"
>
> This is the second time today I've run across a new Whisper owner. My
> first advice is RTFM, (read the fine manual). I don't mean to be
> caustic, but the instructions that came with the filter are really
> pretty thorough. Your Whisper comes with a brown flat sponge, around
> post card size, maybe 3/8 - 1/2 inch thick. That sponge slides in
> between the white biobag and the waterfall outlet into the tank.
Hey Mister Gardener... (I assume you are referring to me as the second
newbie Whisper owner) I come from the land of UNIX where reading the
f*****g manual is pretty much well-ingrained. And so, with my Whisper,
I did indeed read the (not so) fine manual. Alas, with my Whisper
Power filter for 5 - 15 gallon tanks the Biobag is one piece...there is
no seperate sponge outside of it. So unless the manual is completely
mistaken, and/or I was sold a broken product...I just have one bag in my
filter, with no instructions or indications for a separate sponge
sitting alongside it. I am talking one piece here in the filter
chamber...one biobag...if there are parts I am missing please let me
know...given my extended tank cycling epic!
> The sponge fits in a black plastic frame....
*In* the frame or *beside* it as per your quoted post above?
Confused and worried...
Best,
Fred
--
"Never put off till tomorrow what you can do the day after."
--Alphonse Allais
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Posted by Nikki on April 21, 2006, 7:59 pm
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>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:42:02 GMT, "David McDermott"
>>
>> This is the second time today I've run across a new Whisper owner. My
>> first advice is RTFM, (read the fine manual). I don't mean to be
>> caustic, but the instructions that came with the filter are really
>> pretty thorough. Your Whisper comes with a brown flat sponge, around
>> post card size, maybe 3/8 - 1/2 inch thick. That sponge slides in
>> between the white biobag and the waterfall outlet into the tank.
>
> Hey Mister Gardener... (I assume you are referring to me as the second
> newbie Whisper owner) I come from the land of UNIX where reading the
> f*****g manual is pretty much well-ingrained. And so, with my Whisper,
> I did indeed read the (not so) fine manual. Alas, with my Whisper
> Power filter for 5 - 15 gallon tanks the Biobag is one piece...there is
> no seperate sponge outside of it. So unless the manual is completely
> mistaken, and/or I was sold a broken product...I just have one bag in my
> filter, with no instructions or indications for a separate sponge
> sitting alongside it. I am talking one piece here in the filter
> chamber...one biobag...if there are parts I am missing please let me
> know...given my extended tank cycling epic!
>
>> The sponge fits in a black plastic frame....
>
> *In* the frame or *beside* it as per your quoted post above?
>
> Confused and worried...
>
>
> Best,
>
> Fred
>
> --
> "Never put off till tomorrow what you can do the day after."
> --Alphonse Allais
I think Mr. G uses the double sided whispers as i do, i only have a couple
small ones for smaller tanks but i think the older ones dont come with the
sponge, i thought the new ones did (its been a while since i bought one) .
On the double sided whisper there is a slot for your sponge and a the filter
bag ....they go one in front of the other
and your doing better then me im lucky if i remember to change my bag once a
month and i lose the stupid clip all the time.
Nik
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Posted by Mister Gardener on April 21, 2006, 8:20 pm
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:32:53 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:42:02 GMT, "David McDermott"
>>
>> This is the second time today I've run across a new Whisper owner. My
>> first advice is RTFM, (read the fine manual). I don't mean to be
>> caustic, but the instructions that came with the filter are really
>> pretty thorough. Your Whisper comes with a brown flat sponge, around
>> post card size, maybe 3/8 - 1/2 inch thick. That sponge slides in
>> between the white biobag and the waterfall outlet into the tank.
>
>Hey Mister Gardener... (I assume you are referring to me as the second
>newbie Whisper owner) I come from the land of UNIX where reading the
>f*****g manual is pretty much well-ingrained. And so, with my Whisper,
>I did indeed read the (not so) fine manual. Alas, with my Whisper
>Power filter for 5 - 15 gallon tanks the Biobag is one piece...there is
>no seperate sponge outside of it. So unless the manual is completely
>mistaken, and/or I was sold a broken product...I just have one bag in my
>filter, with no instructions or indications for a separate sponge
>sitting alongside it. I am talking one piece here in the filter
>chamber...one biobag...if there are parts I am missing please let me
>know...given my extended tank cycling epic!
>
>> The sponge fits in a black plastic frame....
>
>*In* the frame or *beside* it as per your quoted post above?
>
>Confused and worried...
>
>
>Best,
>
>Fred
Hey - the land of UNIX! I remember cutting my teeth on Delphi out of
Boston. And what a big deal it was when we were the first online
service to offer an easy gateway to the Usenet groups and Archie and
Veronica and all that. I gotta run over to the Tetra page and look up
your model - brb - -
OK. Just got back from Drs Foster & Smith - if your whisper power
hangs outside of the tank it looks like it would be a model 10 or 20
(aka junior or compact). I'm on this page:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3643&N=2004+22769
You can click the more information button for more information. Makes
sense. According to the descriptions, all whisper power filters have a
bio sponge. I own recent models of their 20, 30, 40, and 60 model and
all have sponges.
Oh! Hey! Click on "Other Views" and there is a beautiful detailed
picture of the sponge, frame and biobag assembly.
I have no experience with the new whisper INTERNAL filters, yours
isn't internal is it? They're totally different than the power
filters.
-- Mister Gardener
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Posted by Mister Gardener on April 21, 2006, 8:33 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:20:24 -0400, Mister Gardener
>On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:32:53 -0000, "Frederick B. Henry Jr."
>
>>> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 18:42:02 GMT, "David McDermott"
>>>
>>> This is the second time today I've run across a new Whisper owner. My
>>> first advice is RTFM, (read the fine manual). I don't mean to be
>>> caustic, but the instructions that came with the filter are really
>>> pretty thorough. Your Whisper comes with a brown flat sponge, around
>>> post card size, maybe 3/8 - 1/2 inch thick. That sponge slides in
>>> between the white biobag and the waterfall outlet into the tank.
>>
>>Hey Mister Gardener... (I assume you are referring to me as the second
>>newbie Whisper owner) I come from the land of UNIX where reading the
>>f*****g manual is pretty much well-ingrained. And so, with my Whisper,
>>I did indeed read the (not so) fine manual. Alas, with my Whisper
>>Power filter for 5 - 15 gallon tanks the Biobag is one piece...there is
>>no seperate sponge outside of it. So unless the manual is completely
>>mistaken, and/or I was sold a broken product...I just have one bag in my
>>filter, with no instructions or indications for a separate sponge
>>sitting alongside it. I am talking one piece here in the filter
>>chamber...one biobag...if there are parts I am missing please let me
>>know...given my extended tank cycling epic!
>>
>>> The sponge fits in a black plastic frame....
>>
>>*In* the frame or *beside* it as per your quoted post above?
>>
>>Confused and worried...
>>
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Fred
>Hey - the land of UNIX! I remember cutting my teeth on Delphi out of
>Boston. And what a big deal it was when we were the first online
>service to offer an easy gateway to the Usenet groups and Archie and
>Veronica and all that. I gotta run over to the Tetra page and look up
>your model - brb - -
>
>OK. Just got back from Drs Foster & Smith - if your whisper power
>hangs outside of the tank it looks like it would be a model 10 or 20
>(aka junior or compact). I'm on this page:
>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3643&N=2004+22769
>
>You can click the more information button for more information. Makes
>sense. According to the descriptions, all whisper power filters have a
>bio sponge. I own recent models of their 20, 30, 40, and 60 model and
>all have sponges.
>
> Oh! Hey! Click on "Other Views" and there is a beautiful detailed
>picture of the sponge, frame and biobag assembly.
>
>I have no experience with the new whisper INTERNAL filters, yours
>isn't internal is it? They're totally different than the power
>filters.
>
>-- Mister Gardener
Depending on how quickly you do or don't get back to me, I'm logging
off for the night in a few minutes. This is, after all, Red Sox
Nation, and we have our priorities to consider.
-- Mister Gardener
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>if it advisable to clean the filter at all during cycling or just leave it
>be? Thus far it is showing now signs of clogging so I'm thinking I should
>just leave it. Any thoughts? Will it need at least a quick rinsing during
>the cycle?
>
>Also it is a Whisper filter and I am new to that brand. What is the best
>way to clean those and replace the media without losing the bacteria? I've
>read over a few different strategies on this and some seem to require
>advanced surgical skills to pull off. I'm already kind of questioning my
>decision to get the whisper, but surely there is an easier way to clean
>them...
>