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Posted by Tynk on February 28, 2008, 10:41 am
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> > On Feb 26, 9:05=EF=BF=BDpm, Romanta...@webtv.net (L u) wrote:
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> > > I have started doing water changes every other day, while leaving some=
> > > water on the bottom. Then I add some Ammo Lock.
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> > > You know what I now use the 1.5 gal tank for? For storing and aging th=
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> > > tap water. But, it dosn't hold 5 gallons, so I'll buy a big water jug.=
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> > > One day soon though, I'll have to clean out the whole tank. The gravel=
> > > must be dirty, and the decorations, and the filter.
> > > I guess I should store some of their old fish water when I do that, so=
> > > the cycle won't be totally gone.
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> > Ok....you still need to learn about the cycling process. This is
> > obvious from what you've just said about cleaning out the whole tank
> > and using old tank to keep the cycle going.
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> > Here's a quicky explanation...but I really want you to take the time
> > and research the cycling process, and then proper tank maintenance.
> > They go hand in hand.
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> > The good bacteria that keep the tank cycled are living on every
> > surface inside the tank and filter.
> > They do NOT float about in the water. They cannot be added to a tank
> > by squeezing a dirty filter pad or sponge filter, into a new tank.
> > Adding old tank does do anything for cycling, or to keep the cyle.
> > Only media can do that. Media being gravel, tank decorations, tank
> > walls, filter media, the filter's housing, etc.
> > This is why you never break down a cycled tank fully (scrubbing
> > everything down to clean it). By doing so you are removing the
> > bacteria.
> > When you research tank maintenance you'll learn how to properly clean
> > the gravel.
> > Why are you aging water and using water conditioner?
> > Letting water sit out in an open container is for letting the chlorine
> > gas out. =C2=A0(chloramine does not gas out)
> > When you use a water conditioner, it's instant. The water is ready to
> > go. No need for sitting out then.
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> Just why would you need such a product if the tank is not overstocked,
> not ooverfed and the water changes are done when they are suposed to
> be done. I have never bought more than one bottle =C2=A0of the stuff =C2=
=A0or an
> item that was the same and soon found out its more of a bandaide for
> folks that like to stretch things out or are careless in their fish
> keeping habits. Of ocurse it would be usefull if a fish was to be
> bagged up and shipped like they do with koi and some other fish going
> to shows, but for the common house tank, nope not needed if the fish
> keeper does what is required....Same thing for chlorine removers. NO
> need if yu let the water set out for 24-48 hours prior to use.......Of
> course chloramines are a different story but not every municipality
> uses chloramines either...........I keep jugs and other containers of
> "aged" water =C2=A0on hand all the time and could not lay my hands on aa
> dechlor product if my life depended on it. Never needed any in over
> 20+ years now best I can recall.
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> All these other items like stress coat and amquell, and others is just
> adding more DOC's to a tank that is in all reality alreadyin trouble
> or you would not be needing these items to begin with..........Water
> changes are much cheaper and easier and quicker than doseing tanks and
> fiddling with additives.....and in the end yourt still going to need
> that ever so beneficial WATER CHANGE- Hide quoted text -
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I guess it just depends on how you look at it.
You don't mind having open jugs of water all over the place.
I do. To me, it would be like having clutter all over the place.
I have too many tanks that need water changes. I would need jugs lined
up everywhere.
I can't do that. Instead, I pay $4.00 for a medium sized bottle of
Stress Coat, and dose the water as I need it.
It's instant, and no need for jugs all over, or waiting 24 hours (or
longer if the opening of the jub is small).
When I was a little kid my family had tanks. I can remember jugs of
water being done a day or two before they did a water change.
I grew up with that being a normal thing. Then when I started my own
tank (I was a kid still), I let jugs of water sit out too.
When the hobby went beyond the average tank or two, I started using
conditioners.
Yes, it's a convenience, but well worth it to me.
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