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Posted by L u on March 11, 2008, 12:13 am
Please log in for more thread options He was my favorite, and my son's favorite. I barely had him 2 weeks. He
had white dots on him, and the day he died, the underside of him was
turning gold. He was healthy when I got him.
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Posted by ExPat on March 12, 2008, 8:57 am
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On Mar 10, 11:13=A0pm, Romanta...@webtv.net (L u) wrote:
> He was my favorite, and my son's favorite. I barely had him 2 weeks. He
> had white dots on him, and the day he died, the underside of him was
> turning gold. He was healthy when I got him.
If he was healthy when you got him then it had to be the conditions he
was living in that did it in. Whats the parameters? Sounds like ICH,
but thats just a guess at this point. ICH is brought on by stresses
such as overcrowding or improper water parameters or introducing a
fish that is sick into the tank without it being observed in a QT tank
first. All those watere changes to clear up cloudy water was also
taking away beneficial bacteria which are essential for proper
conditions, and an undergravel filter is just not capabloe of those
conditions with such a load and being so newly setup...It was
inevitable that fish looses will occur. Get a larger tank, a decent
filter, proper water test kits, and stop adding more fish to do the
job of what a human needs to do, and quit mixing gold fish and
tropicals.
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Posted by L u on March 12, 2008, 7:36 pm
Please log in for more thread options I remember I emptied fish water from the store's tank into my tank, so
that could be where he got Ich from. But then again, I'm not sure if the
Moor was in that bag that I emptied. It could have been a different
fish. I realized shortly on, that I shouldn't have done that..and to
just float the bag, but ditch the store water. And, once it happened by
accident when I was cutting a bag.
I do have an ammonia test kit. I will NEVER mix goldfish with tripicals
again. In fact, I may never get goldies again.
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Posted by ExPat on March 12, 2008, 9:33 pm
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On Mar 12, 6:36=A0pm, Romanta...@webtv.net (L u) wrote:
> I remember I emptied fish water from the store's tank into my tank, so
> that could be where he got Ich from. But then again, I'm not sure if the
> Moor was in that bag that I emptied. It could have been a different
> fish. I realized shortly on, that I shouldn't have done that..and to
> just float the bag, but ditch the store water. And, once it happened by
> accident when I was cutting a bag.
> I do have an ammonia test kit. I will NEVER mix goldfish with tripicals
> again. In fact, I may never get goldies again.
That is why you really need to have a QT tank, and then yuou can watch
the fisha nd not dump a fish or the water into an extablished healthy
tank as such. You also need more than an ammonia test kit. PH,
nitrate and nitrite is also needed if your going to do it right. The
water is one thing, but odds are if the fish was in that water and it
had ich then it wouldmake no difference if you dumped inthe water or
not, you added a sick fish to a tank without the problem and started
to cross contaminate by this process. If your using the same net
between the two tanks you can also introduce what ever is wrong with
the one tank into the other as well. Unfortunately petshops just want
to sell a basic bill of goods as they consider you hooked and apt to
buy more fish and meds etc so coupled with their being stupid they
also use you as a constant means of making money form you by not ever
reveal;ing exactly what all you really need, or else the totalprice
would probbaly scare a lot offolks off. There is more to keeping fish
than a glass box with water and filter and light........a lot more!
But its not hard, and there is not any what I would call cheap way
initially to get started correctly.......
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Posted by L u on March 13, 2008, 1:03 am
Please log in for more thread options Thank you. I was really starting to get discouraged today. I asked my
friend if she ever had an aquarium, and she said she had a beautiful 20
gallon, and said her water was always clear. She said to get catfish for
clear water, and not to change too much water. As I said, I have 1
corycat in a 2.5 gallon tank with my gourami, and another corycat in the
other 5 gallon tank with the 2 goldies. She also said goldies need to be
just by themselves.
Tonight, I tested the ammonia levels of the goldie tank, and the test
tube was yellowish...the other tank with the gourami and cory had more
ammonia.
So I got rid of some water of both the tanks, replaced with aged water,
and added a conditioner, and some AmmoLock to both tanks. The ph level
was way up there! Maybe because of the seashells that were in the water?
So I removed all the shells. The ph is still very high, even after the
water changes.
I know one thing: I'm NOT buying anymore fish. It seems like a difficult
hobby to maintain. And frustrating.
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> had white dots on him, and the day he died, the underside of him was
> turning gold. He was healthy when I got him.