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Poll: How long will the big Sword plant survive with the big Goldfish Bill Stock 10-30-2007
Posted by Bill Stock on October 30, 2007, 9:34 pm
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I've got a horrendous outbreak of BGA in my Goldfish tank. It's gotten so
bad it plugs the filter screens every week and now the sink drain is
plugged.

So I plucked the large Sword out of my office tank (20 G) and put in a bowl
of gravel in the GF tank. I'm hoping it's big enough to outgrow the GF
nibbling and reduce the Nitrates. It was getting way too big for the office
anyway. The first day I put it in the tank they hid in the other corner away
from the large green thing. But now they have discovered that it's covered
in Snails as they cruise through the leaves. I was informed that they did
not want their food today. No wonder, they've been eating Escargot all day.

In the past they've pretty much destroyed everything I put in the tank with
them; they either eat it or dig it up. It does not matter that they are not
supposed to like that variety of plant. I was watching them swim by the
plant tonight and they were giving me the "who us, eat your plant" look.
LOL.

We shall see.




Posted by Reel McKoi on November 4, 2007, 3:20 pm
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> I've got a horrendous outbreak of BGA in my Goldfish tank. It's gotten so
> bad it plugs the filter screens every week and now the sink drain is
> plugged.

How many GF and what size are they? How many gallons is the tank? How often
are you doing partial water changes? It sounds like some major partial
water changes are in order.

> So I plucked the large Sword out of my office tank (20 G) and put in a
> bowl of gravel in the GF tank. I'm hoping it's big enough to outgrow the
> GF nibbling and reduce the Nitrates.

Forget the plant. It sounds like the tank is in desperate need of water
changes.

It was getting way too big for the office
> anyway. The first day I put it in the tank they hid in the other corner
> away from the large green thing. But now they have discovered that it's
> covered in Snails as they cruise through the leaves. I was informed that
> they did not want their food today. No wonder, they've been eating
> Escargot all day.
>
> In the past they've pretty much destroyed everything I put in the tank
> with them; they either eat it or dig it up. It does not matter that they
> are not supposed to like that variety of plant. I was watching them swim
> by the plant tonight and they were giving me the "who us, eat your plant"
> look. LOL.
>
> We shall see.

My GF seldom damage the plants. GF are browers and nibble all day long.
Perhaps you need to feed them more often.
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RM....
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Posted by Tynk on November 7, 2007, 10:09 am
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> I've got a horrendous outbreak of BGA in my Goldfish tank. It's gotten so
> bad it plugs the filter screens every week and now the sink drain is
> plugged.
>
> So I plucked the large Sword out of my office tank (20 G) and put in a bowl
> of gravel in the GF tank. I'm hoping it's big enough to outgrow the GF
> nibbling and reduce the Nitrates. It was getting way too big for the office
> anyway. The first day I put it in the tank they hid in the other corner away
> from the large green thing. But now they have discovered that it's covered
> in Snails as they cruise through the leaves. I was informed that they did
> not want their food today. No wonder, they've been eating Escargot all day.
>
> In the past they've pretty much destroyed everything I put in the tank with
> them; they either eat it or dig it up. It does not matter that they are not
> supposed to like that variety of plant. I was watching them swim by the
> plant tonight and they were giving me the "who us, eat your plant" look.
> LOL.
>
> We shall see.

Sorry I didn't read your post until now, but the subject (sword
plants) isn't where my knowledge is.
Outside the house...I have a gorgeous flower garden...inside the house
and fish tanks....I can kill the *un-killable* plants. = /
However, your problem with BGA (Cyanobacteria) is easily cured Maracyn
(1) or any straight erythromicin antibiotic.
However, it has to be that one, not some other antibiotic.
If you are having nitrate problems, you need to up your water changes,
gravel vacuuming, and figure out why.
What size tank is it, and how many (sizes too) Goldies do you have in
it?
When it comes to Cyanobacteria, you have 2 options. Kill it or battle
it.
To kill it, you treat it with antibiotics, just like any other
bacterial infection. To battle it, you'll need to keep pristine water,
starve it of nitrates, no sunlight, turn your lights off for longer
periods of time, and check your phosphate level.
Cyano feeds off all 3, but only needs one to keep it thriving.


Posted by Bill Stock on November 7, 2007, 8:58 pm
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>> I've got a horrendous outbreak of BGA in my Goldfish tank. It's gotten so
>> bad it plugs the filter screens every week and now the sink drain is
>> plugged.
>>
>> So I plucked the large Sword out of my office tank (20 G) and put in a
>> bowl
>> of gravel in the GF tank. I'm hoping it's big enough to outgrow the GF
>> nibbling and reduce the Nitrates. It was getting way too big for the
>> office
>> anyway. The first day I put it in the tank they hid in the other corner
>> away
>> from the large green thing. But now they have discovered that it's
>> covered
>> in Snails as they cruise through the leaves. I was informed that they did
>> not want their food today. No wonder, they've been eating Escargot all
>> day.
>>
>> In the past they've pretty much destroyed everything I put in the tank
>> with
>> them; they either eat it or dig it up. It does not matter that they are
>> not
>> supposed to like that variety of plant. I was watching them swim by the
>> plant tonight and they were giving me the "who us, eat your plant" look.
>> LOL.
>>
>> We shall see.
>
> Sorry I didn't read your post until now, but the subject (sword
> plants) isn't where my knowledge is.
> Outside the house...I have a gorgeous flower garden...inside the house
> and fish tanks....I can kill the *un-killable* plants. = /
> However, your problem with BGA (Cyanobacteria) is easily cured Maracyn
> (1) or any straight erythromicin antibiotic.
> However, it has to be that one, not some other antibiotic.
> If you are having nitrate problems, you need to up your water changes,
> gravel vacuuming, and figure out why.
> What size tank is it, and how many (sizes too) Goldies do you have in
> it?
> When it comes to Cyanobacteria, you have 2 options. Kill it or battle
> it.
> To kill it, you treat it with antibiotics, just like any other
> bacterial infection. To battle it, you'll need to keep pristine water,
> starve it of nitrates, no sunlight, turn your lights off for longer
> periods of time, and check your phosphate level.
> Cyano feeds off all 3, but only needs one to keep it thriving.


Yes Erythromycin will kill off BGA.

Oddly enough I gave my filters a thorough cleaning (discovered the intake
tubes were partially blocked) and the BGA has all but gone. BGA hates
current too. It was hiding some other type of algae, like string algae, only
shorter.


There are 3 GF, one 8", one 6" and one 3+". I used to have two small ones,
but he died of dropsy a few weeks ago. I have no gravel and they get bathed
every week (50% water change). Giving them the plant has caused a
Columnaris outbreak, likely due to some sort of parasite. They're on
Kanamycin now and doing better. Potassium Permanganate (I've got a lifetime
supply) has been suggested, but it always kills the biofilter.




Posted by Tynk on November 8, 2007, 10:27 am
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> I've got a horrendous outbreak of BGA in my Goldfish tank. It's gotten so
> >> bad it plugs the filter screens every week and now the sink drain is
> >> plugged.
>
> >> So I plucked the large Sword out of my office tank (20 G) and put in a
> >> bowl
> >> of gravel in the GF tank. I'm hoping it's big enough to outgrow the GF
> >> nibbling and reduce the Nitrates. It was getting way too big for the
> >> office
> >> anyway. The first day I put it in the tank they hid in the other corner
> >> away
> >> from the large green thing. But now they have discovered that it's
> >> covered
> >> in Snails as they cruise through the leaves. I was informed that they did
> >> not want their food today. No wonder, they've been eating Escargot all
> >> day.
>
> >> In the past they've pretty much destroyed everything I put in the tank
> >> with
> >> them; they either eat it or dig it up. It does not matter that they are
> >> not
> >> supposed to like that variety of plant. I was watching them swim by the
> >> plant tonight and they were giving me the "who us, eat your plant" look.
> >> LOL.
>
> >> We shall see.
>
> > Sorry I didn't read your post until now, but the subject (sword
> > plants) isn't where my knowledge is.
> > Outside the house...I have a gorgeous flower garden...inside the house
> > and fish tanks....I can kill the *un-killable* plants. = /
> > However, your problem with BGA (Cyanobacteria) is easily cured Maracyn
> > (1) or any straight erythromicin antibiotic.
> > However, it has to be that one, not some other antibiotic.
> > If you are having nitrate problems, you need to up your water changes,
> > gravel vacuuming, and figure out why.
> > What size tank is it, and how many (sizes too) Goldies do you have in
> > it?
> > When it comes to Cyanobacteria, you have 2 options. Kill it or battle
> > it.
> > To kill it, you treat it with antibiotics, just like any other
> > bacterial infection. To battle it, you'll need to keep pristine water,
> > starve it of nitrates, no sunlight, turn your lights off for longer
> > periods of time, and check your phosphate level.
> > Cyano feeds off all 3, but only needs one to keep it thriving.
>
> Yes Erythromycin will kill off BGA.
>
> Oddly enough I gave my filters a thorough cleaning (discovered the intake
> tubes were partially blocked) and the BGA has all but gone. BGA hates
> current too. It was hiding some other type of algae, like string algae, only
> shorter.
>
> There are 3 GF, one 8", one 6" and one 3+". I used to have two small ones,
> but he died of dropsy a few weeks ago. I have no gravel and they get bathed
> every week (50% water change). Giving them the plant has caused a
> Columnaris outbreak, likely due to some sort of parasite. They're on
> Kanamycin now and doing better. Potassium Permanganate (I've got a lifetime
> supply) has been suggested, but it always kills the biofilter.- Hide quoted
text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oh my...
You really have a lot going on here with this tank.
You forgot to mention the size of the tank in question. That's
important.
You just lost 2 due to Dropsy symptoms (dropsy is a symptom and not an
actual disease if you didn't know).
Columnaris is a bacterial infection and rather contagious. Why do you
think adding the plant gave them Columnaris (flexibactor bacteria, aka
Flex, body fungus..even though it's not a fungus)? Did the tank at the
office that you took the plant out of have an outbreak of Columnaris
in it?
Are your fish showing symptoms of parasites? I'm confused by this
whole statement, so please explain it:
>>Giving them the plant has caused a Columnaris outbreak, likely due to some
sort of parasite. >>
Please get back with some answers so we can help your Goldies.


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