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Re: fish seem to gulp underwater all the time - is it normal swarvegorilla 04-04-2007
Posted by swarvegorilla on April 4, 2007, 2:19 am
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Lack of oxygen or even ammonia in the water will often get your fish gasping
near the surface.
Myself I would hazzard a guess that your water contains too much nitrite.
This enters the fish and poisons it.
I imagine the tank is about due for a nitrite spike.
Please google the phrase 'new tank syndrome' to see what your dealing with
here.





> Hi,
>
> My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35
> litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later
> added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later
> still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she
> thinks she has done everything correct.
>
> The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their
> mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface.
>
> They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses
> sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim
> around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem
> pretty active.
>
> Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think
> her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself.
>
> The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the
> water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a
> pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc).
>
> So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much.
>
> Sorry if this is a really stupid question.
>
> Regards,
> Scott
>



Posted by scott on April 4, 2007, 8:01 am
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> Lack of oxygen or even ammonia in the water will often get your fish gasping
> near the surface.
> Myself I would hazzard a guess that your water contains too much nitrite.
> This enters the fish and poisons it.
> I imagine the tank is about due for a nitrite spike.
> Please google the phrase 'new tank syndrome' to see what your dealing with
> here.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > My girlfriend is new to keeping fish and has recently brought a 35
> > litre tank. She set it all up except the fish and one week later
> > added 2 goldfish, maybe 1.5 inches in length. Then one week later
> > still she added the final two fish which are about 1inch. So she
> > thinks she has done everything correct.
>
> > The only thing she is not sure is right with the fish is that their
> > mouth constantly gulp. This is underwater and not at the surface.
>
> > They all swim around and look for food near the bottom (she uses
> > sinkng food) and in the evenings they seem to get more active and swim
> > around mind tank and also near the surface sometimes. They seem
> > pretty active.
>
> > Their mouths open and shut all the time. From memory she doesnt think
> > her friends fish mouths move so much and I have no idea myself.
>
> > The ones in the shop dont but then they are pumping oxygen into the
> > water all the time, whereas my girfriend just has about 4 plants and a
> > pump to move the water around (plus the filter etc).
>
> > So is is normal for the fishes mouth to move this much.
>
> > Sorry if this is a really stupid question.
>
> > Regards,
> > Scott- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Hi,

The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though.
Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I
have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it
best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything
should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe
adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats
possible, ie another chemical??)

TIA
Scott


Posted by Reel McKoi on April 4, 2007, 3:54 pm
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>
> The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though.
> Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I
> have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it
> best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything
> should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe
> adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats
> possible, ie another chemical??)
==========================
When cycling a new tank I don't bother the filter or gravel unless there is
uneaten food sitting there turning into ammonia. But that doesn't happen
anymore since I feed very, very lightly while a tank cycles. I keep doing
partial water changes faithfully though so the fish don't sicken or suffer.
--
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Posted by on April 4, 2007, 10:30 pm
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yes, dont clean the sponge right now. there is biospira trade name for bacteria
that
is added to the water to help colonize the filter.
you can add chemicals that will bind to the ammonia. forget the name. Ingrid

>The 'new tank syndrome' was a real helper. One question though.
>Should I refrain from cleaning the sponge filter (in the tank water I
>have removed while water changing) while the tank is cycling. Is it
>best to just leave it alone. Same for gravel. Seems like everything
>should be left alone except doing lots of water changes (and maybe
>adding something to bring down the ammonia/nitrite levels if thats
>possible, ie another chemical??)
>
>TIA
>Scott



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Posted by ~ jan on April 6, 2007, 3:32 pm
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 02:30:15 GMT, dr-solo@wi.rr.xx.com wrote:

>yes, dont clean the sponge right now. there is biospira trade name for
bacteria that
>is added to the water to help colonize the filter.
>you can add chemicals that will bind to the ammonia. forget the name. Ingrid
>
ChlorAm-X or Amquel are a couple brand names to bind ammonia, yet still
provide it for the bacteria to grow on. Use salt to detox the nitrite. Easy
on the water changes, not too much or you'll defeat the cycle. ~ jan
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