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04-14-2006

Re: fantail died - FOUND IT!

Koi-Lo

04-14-2006

Posted by Foundryrat on April 14, 2006, 2:22 pm

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Koi-Lo wrote:

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>

>> i have a one gallon setup. Nothing spectacular but it's all i'm
>> allowed. So i got a one gallon aquarium. Set it up last saturday
>> bought a fantail and plecostymous. I didn't wait the full 48 hours
>> for the water to aerate. Although i did by water neutralyzer. after
>> first few days though both fish seem to acclymate.

>
>
> Did you do your ammonia tests? By day 7 the ammonia could be sky-high
> and deadly. A pleco grows to 18" long and GF can reach almost a foot
> long. You can't keep these fish in a 1g tank. The pet shop should have
> told you this.
>

>> Today was day five plescostymous still healthy. Looking at the fantail
>> before work there just wasn't much life to it. It was alive not on
>> the side but just moving oh so slowly. Almost looked as though it had
>> battle wounds from poky plastic plant in aquarium. My theory is the
>> fish bludgeoned itself to death with poky plastic in aquarium

>
>
> I doubt that's what did the damage to it. What is the ammonia reading?
>

>> Well i got out of work tonight fantail was dead no life at all.
>> wasn't even dying, it was dead.

>
>
> Ammonia and PH were?
>

>> Any advice on my next fish. Anyone have fish bludgeon themselves to
>> death? Would that be a recurring problem?

>
>
> That doesn't happen. The tank is way too small for a GF. The plec may
> have done the damage as some of them go after other fishes slimecoats
> for the protein. I think you need to Google both GF and Plecos.
>

>> Any comments appreciated as i don't know whether to get a fish tommorrow.

>
>
> Get rid of the pleco and get a betta or a few male guppies. Is this 1g
> tank at least filtered and aerated? Do some reading before you purchase
> anything else would be the best advice anyone can give you at this point.

The walmart folks said the one gallone be fine.
Yes the filter is filtered and aerated (has the
bubbly things)

Posted by Koi-Lo on April 14, 2006, 2:57 pm

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> Koi-Lo wrote:

>> Get rid of the pleco and get a betta or a few male guppies. Is this 1g
>> tank at least filtered and aerated? Do some reading before you purchase
>> anything else would be the best advice anyone can give you at this point.

> The walmart folks said the one gallone be fine.

==============
Yes, it is FINE for one betta or 2 or 3 male guppies. The people at
Wal*Mart don't know anything about fish. Would you ask a spoon collector
about an infected wart on your finger? Same difference.

> Yes the filter is filtered and aerated (has the bubbly things)

Great, now either use Yahoo or Google and search out all the information you
need.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

Posted by Foundryrat on April 14, 2006, 3:03 pm

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Koi-Lo wrote:

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>

>> Koi-Lo wrote:
>>

>>> Get rid of the pleco and get a betta or a few male guppies. Is this
>>> 1g tank at least filtered and aerated? Do some reading before you
>>> purchase anything else would be the best advice anyone can give you
>>> at this point.

>
>

>> The walmart folks said the one gallone be fine.

>
> ==============
> Yes, it is FINE for one betta or 2 or 3 male guppies. The people at
> Wal*Mart don't know anything about fish. Would you ask a spoon
> collector about an infected wart on your finger? Same difference.
>

>> Yes the filter is filtered and aerated (has the bubbly things)

>
>
> Great, now either use Yahoo or Google and search out all the information
> you need.

will do thanks again. I'll feel better returning
the plecostymous and trying this again (with a
betta!) or few guppies, after i do more research.
I thought i had the right idea, and didn't do
any extrra research cause i thought i had the
basics. Boy was i wrong. There just fish but i
do not promote death, and i was pretty hard on
myself for virtually killing the fish, as i should be.

As for the fish looking like it was being
attacked. At first i thought it was plastic
pokies in the aquarium, may the plecostymous did
the damage.

Who knows, but i'm returning the plec today and
emptying my aquarium out, and do nothing with it
until i do my research and do it right the next
time around.

Instead of walmart i'll probably go to pets plus.

rat.

Posted by Koi-Lo on April 14, 2006, 7:06 pm

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> I thought i had the right idea, and didn't do any extrra research cause i
> thought i had the basics. Boy was i wrong.

We all had to learn. :-) No one is born with the knowledge of fishkeeping.

There just fish but i

> do not promote death, and i was pretty hard on myself for virtually
> killing the fish, as i should be.

You didn't know. You didn't harm it on purpose.

> As for the fish looking like it was being attacked. At first i thought it
> was plastic pokies in the aquarium, may the plecostymous did the damage.

Yes, some plecos will harm their tankmates. A 1g is much too small for a
pleco.

>
> Who knows, but i'm returning the plec today and emptying my aquarium out,
> and do nothing with it until i do my research and do it right the next
> time around.

That is the smartest thing to do.

> Instead of walmart i'll probably go to pets plus.

Yes, but even there don't depend on the people knowing much more than those
at Wal*Mart. Some pet shops hire anything that comes in the door and other
shops do hire people with some knowledge. Bone up on fish before you go.
--
Koi-Lo....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/
~~~ }<((((o> ~~~ }<{{{{o> ~~~ }<(((((o>

Posted by Foundryrat on April 14, 2006, 9:18 pm

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iKoi-Lo wrote:

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>

>> I thought i had the right idea, and didn't do any extrra research
>> cause i thought i had the basics. Boy was i wrong.

>
>
> We all had to learn. :-) No one is born with the knowledge of
> fishkeeping.
>
> There just fish but i
>

>> do not promote death, and i was pretty hard on myself for virtually
>> killing the fish, as i should be.

>
>
> You didn't know. You didn't harm it on purpose.
>

>> As for the fish looking like it was being attacked. At first i
>> thought it was plastic pokies in the aquarium, may the plecostymous
>> did the damage.

>
>
> Yes, some plecos will harm their tankmates. A 1g is much too small for
> a pleco.
>

>>
>> Who knows, but i'm returning the plec today and emptying my aquarium
>> out, and do nothing with it until i do my research and do it right the
>> next time around.

>
>
> That is the smartest thing to do.
>

>> Instead of walmart i'll probably go to pets plus.

>
>
> Yes, but even there don't depend on the people knowing much more than
> those at Wal*Mart. Some pet shops hire anything that comes in the door
> and other shops do hire people with some knowledge. Bone up on fish
> before you go.

i've been reading up on bettas. I think there the
way to go. And i never knew gravel was bad for
these fish!

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