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lethargic goldfish - new tank.... EA 04-10-2007
Posted by swarvegorilla on April 15, 2007, 8:47 pm
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And even so, a chunk outta someones established filter (sponge or noodles
etc) usually kicks BioSpira's arse as far as a quick cycle is concerned.
Either way ya do it (seed the tank), the bacteria needs to be fed to breed
up. I usually just use fish food.... but theres a movement to use ammonia
as it's easier/cheaper/purer



> The Cycle product is next to worthless, in my experience. ONLY BioSpira
> (a refrigerated solution patented by Marineland) clearly works in the
> manner intended.
>
>> Firstly, thanks SO much for all your advice - if only you worked at
>> our local pet store! The advice that we've been given by these people
>> has been well intentioned but, apparently, ill informed.
>
>



Posted by Telstar on April 15, 2007, 10:03 pm
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> And even so, a chunk outta someones established filter (sponge or noodles
> etc) usually kicks BioSpira's arse as far as a quick cycle is concerned.
> Either way ya do it (seed the tank), the bacteria needs to be fed to breed
> up. I usually just use fish food.... but theres a movement to use ammonia
> as it's easier/cheaper/purer
>
>
>
>> The Cycle product is next to worthless, in my experience. ONLY BioSpira
>> (a refrigerated solution patented by Marineland) clearly works in the
>> manner intended.
>>
>>> Firstly, thanks SO much for all your advice - if only you worked at
>>> our local pet store! The advice that we've been given by these people
>>> has been well intentioned but, apparently, ill informed.
>>
>>
>
>
Agreed...I should have said ONLY (commercial source) et al.



Posted by swarvegorilla on April 15, 2007, 11:15 pm
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>
>> And even so, a chunk outta someones established filter (sponge or noodles
>> etc) usually kicks BioSpira's arse as far as a quick cycle is concerned.
>> Either way ya do it (seed the tank), the bacteria needs to be fed to
>> breed up. I usually just use fish food.... but theres a movement to use
>> ammonia as it's easier/cheaper/purer
>>
>>
>>
>>> The Cycle product is next to worthless, in my experience. ONLY BioSpira
>>> (a refrigerated solution patented by Marineland) clearly works in the
>>> manner intended.
>>>
>>>> Firstly, thanks SO much for all your advice - if only you worked at
>>>> our local pet store! The advice that we've been given by these people
>>>> has been well intentioned but, apparently, ill informed.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> Agreed...I should have said ONLY (commercial source) et al.
>
>

Well I hope I didn't sound like I was nit picking, was just adding to your
post.
I always found it kinda embarassing when me bosses used to pressure me to
push sales of bacteria in bottles and teabags etc.
Despite the risk of passing a disease onto a customer from high traffic
tanks..... nothing beats being able to wip out a nice cycled sponge and
swap it for one of the brand new ones in the customers new filter.
Bag the sponge up like a fishy, and send them home.
NEVER HAD DRAMA doing it that way......
the alternative.... explaining the nitrogen cycle and then walking them
thru the next few weeks of sick fish and daily water changes when they
ignore my advice used to stress me out.
This is such an easy hobby once you have your filters cycled.
It's just complicated explaining why its an easy hobby.
:)



Posted by on April 16, 2007, 8:40 am
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there is another one out there, cant remember who makes it. Ingrid


>The Cycle product is next to worthless, in my experience. ONLY BioSpira (a
>refrigerated solution patented by Marineland) clearly works in the manner
>intended.
>
>> Firstly, thanks SO much for all your advice - if only you worked at
>> our local pet store! The advice that we've been given by these people
>> has been well intentioned but, apparently, ill informed.
>



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Posted by on April 14, 2007, 9:24 am
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just dont let the ammonia or nitrite get above barely detectable and the nitrate
over
20 ppm. Ingrid


>Now that we've bought this bacteria, should we still be doing the
>partial daily water changes?


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