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Posted by LandShark on August 14, 2005, 12:33 pm
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Hi,
This is my first posting to this newsgroup. I am starting my first
saltwater tank after years of not having a tank setup. I use to keep
African Cichlids.
I just recently bought a 75G tank and stand, unfortunately the tank has
a tempered bottom and cannot be drilled. At first I was going to just
keep salt water fish, but have decided I would like a few inverts as
well, ie crabs, shrimp, snails and such. I was told by the fish store
I would just need a canister filter, the Classic Ehein 2215. I have
since be reading up on filtration and was looking at the Ehein
Profession II. Because I have never owned a canister filter, I do not
know the difference between these two. I notice there are a few
functions on the Prof II that may add to the ease of use and also looks
like it may have greater volume for possible better filtration.
As I continued my research I found hte Ehein Wet/Dry 2227. From what I
have been reading about salt water setups, wet/dry is the way to go,
and of course many recommendation on protein skimmers.
Because I would like to have a reef setup in the future, would the
Ehein Wet/Dry be a worthy investment?
Anyone have any thoughts on this topic or suggestions? I would prefer
not to setup a sump at this time, so I will definitely just be going
with some type of canister setup. I just would like to have use of
this equipment as I progress into a more reef setup. I am considering
a protein skimmer as well, just not to begin with.
Any thoughts on this topic would greatly be apprecitated. I am new to
saltwater and trying to absorb as much info as possible.
Thanks,
Newbee
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Posted by George Patterson on August 14, 2005, 10:23 pm
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LandShark wrote:
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> As I continued my research I found hte Ehein Wet/Dry 2227. From what I
> have been reading about salt water setups, wet/dry is the way to go,
> and of course many recommendation on protein skimmers.
I've got the larger 2229 on my FOWLR 125 gallon. I'm quite pleased with it. Just
be aware that it handles only the first part of the nitrogen cycle - it does not
process nitrates. For this reason, many people refer to wet/dry filters as
"nitrate factories."
> Because I would like to have a reef setup in the future, would the
> Ehein Wet/Dry be a worthy investment?
I'm not a reef expert, but, from what I've read, you'd really want something
else when that time comes.
George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
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Posted by George Pontis on August 15, 2005, 1:28 pm
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trav_ler@hotmail.com says...
> ...
>
> I just recently bought a 75G tank and stand, unfortunately the tank has
> a tempered bottom and cannot be drilled. At first I was going to just
> keep salt water fish, but have decided I would like a few inverts as
> well, ie crabs, shrimp, snails and such. I was told by the fish store
> I would just need a canister filter, the Classic Ehein 2215. I have
> since be reading up on filtration and was looking at the Ehein
> Profession II. Because I have never owned a canister filter, I do not
> know the difference between these two. I notice there are a few
> functions on the Prof II that may add to the ease of use and also looks
> like it may have greater volume for possible better filtration.
>
> As I continued my research I found hte Ehein Wet/Dry 2227. From what I
> have been reading about salt water setups, wet/dry is the way to go,
> and of course many recommendation on protein skimmers.
>
> Because I would like to have a reef setup in the future, would the
> Ehein Wet/Dry be a worthy investment?
No. It is a fine piece of gear for a freshwater aquarium or a fish only marine
system using water changes for nitrate reduction. For the reef setup, a skimmer
with sand bed and live rock will maintain the water better and with fewer
changes.
A decent skimmer would cost about the same as the 2227. Why not just buy a
skimmer
now and set up with aragonite sand and a few pieces of live rock? You can add
more
live rock later as you build up the reef. The AquaC Remora is a well regarded
skimmer that can hang on the back of the tank (no drilling or sump). The price
is
comparable to the Eheim 2227.
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Posted by LandShark on August 16, 2005, 1:03 am
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Price is not really an issue as I intend to spend a reasonable ammount,
not thousands. I was just told by the LFS that a Ehien 2215 canister
is all I would need for a fish only tank with a few inverts. As I was
pricing it online, I started reading about the other canister options,
ie the Pro II and liked the look of the wet/dry. It look easy to
manage and was an all in one quick and easy setup. However, if you
think a protein skimmer is the better way to go and would provide
enough filtration, perhaps I will start investigating the various
skimmers out there. I have notice there are some good HOB overflows
now that do know cause overflow disasters if the pump has a POWER
outage. Any suggestion on going with a sump setup with a skimmer? Can
I use a 10 g tank I have as the sump? Or to get my tank going now,
what would you recomment? just get a skimmer with a built in pump and
some live rock and a damsel?
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Posted by Marc Levenson on August 17, 2005, 5:58 am
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Have you had a chance to go to my website yet? There is a ton of
information there about sumps, and a lot of ideas as various tanks
demand different needs. DIY information is included so that you could
build your own custom sump for about $100.
http://www.melevsreef.com/allmysumps.html
Running a skimmer is the way to go, and a quality skimmer at that.
http://www.melevsreef.com
Marc
LandShark wrote:
> Price is not really an issue as I intend to spend a reasonable ammount,
> not thousands. I was just told by the LFS that a Ehien 2215 canister
> is all I would need for a fish only tank with a few inverts. As I was
> pricing it online, I started reading about the other canister options,
> ie the Pro II and liked the look of the wet/dry. It look easy to
> manage and was an all in one quick and easy setup. However, if you
> think a protein skimmer is the better way to go and would provide
> enough filtration, perhaps I will start investigating the various
> skimmers out there. I have notice there are some good HOB overflows
> now that do know cause overflow disasters if the pump has a POWER
> outage. Any suggestion on going with a sump setup with a skimmer? Can
> I use a 10 g tank I have as the sump? Or to get my tank going now,
> what would you recomment? just get a skimmer with a built in pump and
> some live rock and a damsel?
>
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> As I continued my research I found hte Ehein Wet/Dry 2227. From what I
> have been reading about salt water setups, wet/dry is the way to go,
> and of course many recommendation on protein skimmers.