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Need help, advice, references Connie 04-14-2005
Posted by CheezWiz on April 22, 2005, 2:21 pm
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I could not recommend that a newbie to saltwater take a plunge like this
without at least having a friend who knows what they are doing and could
help..

> Hi Guys.. I am pretty excited. I found a deal, that I think is pretty
> good... but I have 5 days to learn as much as I can (luckily I am a
> quick study).
>
> In your opinion, is this a good deal... a two year old well established
> 75 gal salt water tank, 7+ fish (dog-faced puffer, clown, black and
> yellow striped tang, 4 Damsels, 4 choc chipped stars), filters (one
> UGF, and on hanging), decor, wooden stand, food, chemicals, and water
> levels tests... Gravel for the substrate... For $400

If you are wanting a reef tank, then this is already a bad start and does
not appear to be a good deal to me.
The UGF has gotta go for corals and such..! As for the hang on, still most
likely no good for corals and a reef..
This is a fish only tank and with such things as puffers and choc-chip stars
that is all it can be..


>
> Ok - now that we have that out of the way - If it is a good deal, then
> I pick it up on Tuesday. I need as much info as I can get... I am used
> to freshwater, I was pretty proficient at it, with a well planted tank
> and DIY lighting and CO2 stuff...
>
> So here are my questions..What is the biggest differences in fresh
> water and salt in maintenance? What do I NEED to know by Tuesday?
>
> My biggest question is what is the best way to transport this tank and
> reintroduce the fish without losing alot of the biological filter and
> stressing out the fish.
>
> Also - one more that I can think of right now... There were two fish
> that I really wanted - I got the dog faced puffer, the other one is a
> black lionfish. Would he fit into this tank at all??

Not good in my opinion..

>
> And - can I get coral, and anemones with this tank? The substarte he is
> using is gravel - should I add live sand, or is gravel ok (I guess it
> is ok, he's been using it for 2 years).

No this is a fish only setup. If you want a reef, this is 180 degrees out of
phase..

>
> Any advice, websites, or books you can offer is GREAT. I am very exited
> to learn and get prepared for my new hobby.
>

If you want a reef tank, keep your money and buy "The Natural Reef Aquarium"
by John Tullock.
Read all of it twice. Then decide if you are ready to make the jump to
marine tanks.

If you do, you can follow one of his examples and go slow. This is not
something to rush into on a whim. This tank is all wrong for a reef. Your
money would be better spent towards a real reef ready tank that has been
drilled with overflows like the all-glass models or Oceanic...

Opinions will vary with mileage....
CW




Posted by Sang Kang on May 9, 2005, 5:35 am
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The tank doesn't appear to be a reef tank but fish only.
If your going to convert this to a reef tank then you need to remove certain
fish.
You can search for reef safe fish on google and take out those fish and
keep the rest. For one thing sure, the dog faced puffer need to go.
I have two tank, one with gravel and other with sand. Read the posts or do
some search on the net for pro and con of gravel and sand.
Personally, I don't have any problem with either gravel or sand bed for
reef.
If you go with sand, make sure it's aragonite. Gravel should be crush coral
if not aragonite gravel.

Different corals have different light requirement so ask the fish store guy
for light advice on coral you want to add before you buy.
Important thing here is you need to change the water frequently initially
then when the tank settles you can span the frequency down.

I would recommend you change the water each day at 10% for the first week.
Then do it every other day, then every three day then ever four day.. Get
the idea?

Finally, the normal water change should be 10 to 20% per month.
It's important to keep the fish stress free.
Assuming you have a sump, the water can be added in the sump and take out
from the sump.

Unless your giving fish food, do not add or remove water/chemical directly
to the main tank.

Finally, go buy a good reef test kit and good hydrometer.


>I could not recommend that a newbie to saltwater take a plunge like this
>without at least having a friend who knows what they are doing and could
>help..
>
>> Hi Guys.. I am pretty excited. I found a deal, that I think is pretty
>> good... but I have 5 days to learn as much as I can (luckily I am a
>> quick study).
>>
>> In your opinion, is this a good deal... a two year old well established
>> 75 gal salt water tank, 7+ fish (dog-faced puffer, clown, black and
>> yellow striped tang, 4 Damsels, 4 choc chipped stars), filters (one
>> UGF, and on hanging), decor, wooden stand, food, chemicals, and water
>> levels tests... Gravel for the substrate... For $400
>
> If you are wanting a reef tank, then this is already a bad start and does
> not appear to be a good deal to me.
> The UGF has gotta go for corals and such..! As for the hang on, still most
> likely no good for corals and a reef..
> This is a fish only tank and with such things as puffers and choc-chip
> stars that is all it can be..
>
>
>>
>> Ok - now that we have that out of the way - If it is a good deal, then
>> I pick it up on Tuesday. I need as much info as I can get... I am used
>> to freshwater, I was pretty proficient at it, with a well planted tank
>> and DIY lighting and CO2 stuff...
>>
>> So here are my questions..What is the biggest differences in fresh
>> water and salt in maintenance? What do I NEED to know by Tuesday?
>>
>> My biggest question is what is the best way to transport this tank and
>> reintroduce the fish without losing alot of the biological filter and
>> stressing out the fish.
>>
>> Also - one more that I can think of right now... There were two fish
>> that I really wanted - I got the dog faced puffer, the other one is a
>> black lionfish. Would he fit into this tank at all??
>
> Not good in my opinion..
>
>>
>> And - can I get coral, and anemones with this tank? The substarte he is
>> using is gravel - should I add live sand, or is gravel ok (I guess it
>> is ok, he's been using it for 2 years).
>
> No this is a fish only setup. If you want a reef, this is 180 degrees out
> of phase..
>
>>
>> Any advice, websites, or books you can offer is GREAT. I am very exited
>> to learn and get prepared for my new hobby.
>>
>
> If you want a reef tank, keep your money and buy "The Natural Reef
> Aquarium" by John Tullock.
> Read all of it twice. Then decide if you are ready to make the jump to
> marine tanks.
>
> If you do, you can follow one of his examples and go slow. This is not
> something to rush into on a whim. This tank is all wrong for a reef. Your
> money would be better spent towards a real reef ready tank that has been
> drilled with overflows like the all-glass models or Oceanic...
>
> Opinions will vary with mileage....
> CW
>
>
>



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