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This distrust of glass canopies seems like bunk Fjord 08-22-2005
Posted by Fjord on August 22, 2005, 1:44 am
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okay, I hear that 1/4" of glass is bad when placed between your 4-5
watts per gallon lighting and your corals. It limits the transmittance
of the light spectrum, i hear.

However, when scuba diving I routinely see photosynthetic corals in 70
feet of water.

How can 1/4" of glass wreak more havoc than 70 feet of water?

Even admitting that 4-5 watts per gallon is not the same as sunlight,
how can 1/4" of glass be worse than 70 feet of water? or even 30 feet?

- fjord


Posted by Greg E. on August 22, 2005, 2:47 am
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You lose 6-8% of the light from the two additional interfaces. Fused silica
(glass) doesn't absorb significantly at the wavelengths in question so it's
just the reflections that are an issue. It's not that it's "bad," but 6-8%
is not completely insignificant either, especially if you are trying to get
the most bang for your (electric bill) buck.



> okay, I hear that 1/4" of glass is bad when placed between your 4-5
> watts per gallon lighting and your corals. It limits the transmittance
> of the light spectrum, i hear.
>
> However, when scuba diving I routinely see photosynthetic corals in 70
> feet of water.
>
> How can 1/4" of glass wreak more havoc than 70 feet of water?
>
> Even admitting that 4-5 watts per gallon is not the same as sunlight,
> how can 1/4" of glass be worse than 70 feet of water? or even 30 feet?
>
> - fjord
>



Posted by George Pontis on August 23, 2005, 12:48 pm
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@comcast.net says...
> You lose 6-8% of the light from the two additional interfaces. Fused silica
> (glass) doesn't absorb significantly at the wavelengths in question so it's
> just the reflections that are an issue. It's not that it's "bad," but 6-8%
> is not completely insignificant either, especially if you are trying to get
> the most bang for your (electric bill) buck.

Minor quibble: fused silica is an exotic synthetic material, not the same as
"glass". It is closely related to quartz. Primary uses are in premium fiber
optic
cables, lenses for high power lasers, and special applications that require
excellent clarity deep into the UV range.

Posted by Greg E. on August 24, 2005, 3:06 am
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An entirely reasonable point, this was just the material I'm used to using.
Data for soda lime glass (the cheap stuff), borosilicate, alumina silicates
and other crown glasses is available, but much more of a pain to sort
through. Plus, fresnel reflection isn't a strong function of the material,
and even soda lime glass is good below 380 nm.


gse1977
> @comcast.net says...
> > You lose 6-8% of the light from the two additional interfaces. Fused
silica
> > (glass) doesn't absorb significantly at the wavelengths in question so
it's
> > just the reflections that are an issue. It's not that it's "bad," but
6-8%
> > is not completely insignificant either, especially if you are trying to
get
> > the most bang for your (electric bill) buck.
>
> Minor quibble: fused silica is an exotic synthetic material, not the same
as
> "glass". It is closely related to quartz. Primary uses are in premium
fiber optic
> cables, lenses for high power lasers, and special applications that
require
> excellent clarity deep into the UV range.



Posted by Greg E. on August 22, 2005, 2:49 am
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Another thing -- I was ignoring any losses due to "salt creep" and dirt on
the glass. That can easly cost you another 10-30% due to scatter and
reflection depending on the geometry.




> okay, I hear that 1/4" of glass is bad when placed between your 4-5
> watts per gallon lighting and your corals. It limits the transmittance
> of the light spectrum, i hear.
>
> However, when scuba diving I routinely see photosynthetic corals in 70
> feet of water.
>
> How can 1/4" of glass wreak more havoc than 70 feet of water?
>
> Even admitting that 4-5 watts per gallon is not the same as sunlight,
> how can 1/4" of glass be worse than 70 feet of water? or even 30 feet?
>
> - fjord
>



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