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substrate question Quiet Reef 03-17-2005
Posted by Quiet Reef on March 17, 2005, 1:10 pm
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Hi there:

Do any of you think it would be possible to use tiny glass beads 1-2mm
in the substrate? They would be inert, wouldn't they?

Thanks,
quietreef

Posted by Chris Gentry on March 17, 2005, 8:17 pm
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> Hi there:
>
> Do any of you think it would be possible to use tiny glass beads 1-2mm
> in the substrate? They would be inert, wouldn't they?
>
> Thanks,
> quietreef

I'm sure you could use this as a substrate, but I think it would only be for
your viewing pleasure. You might do some research on grain sizes of Deep
Sand Beds (DSB) to find out if this would work at denitrification. Also you
wouldn't get any buffering capabilities for your system. I'm also not sure
if detrivores would burrow into glass beads, so it might be a problem
keeping it clean.

Those are just my thoughts. I don't have any real research to back it up.
I did use glass marbles for freshwater fish breeding at one time, and glass
is inert, and won't harm the fish. It is my opinion that you should use an
aragonite sand, and if you don't want to pay a fortune for it, try looking
for southdown/yardright/old castle brand sand at home depot, or your local
landscaping companies. Yard right sand is sold as Tropical Play Sand at
some of these places. If you can't find that, I would at least go with a
decent silica based sand. I do have to say though, that there is debate on
whether silica based sand is good for your tanks, but so far all the
research I have done, has led me to believe that this is all bunk, and it is
ok for your tank. But only you can make that decision. -Chris



Posted by Rich R on March 18, 2005, 7:05 am
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I tried the home depot brands,NOT GOOD!! If your going to do a DSB you
should do it right from the beginning or you will get hell,,,Its what helps
support the system and unless you have 20 cent minnows in the tank I would
not mess with the proven way.Trust me I tried

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>
>> Hi there:
>>
>> Do any of you think it would be possible to use tiny glass beads 1-2mm
>> in the substrate? They would be inert, wouldn't they?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> quietreef
>
> I'm sure you could use this as a substrate, but I think it would only be
> for
> your viewing pleasure. You might do some research on grain sizes of Deep
> Sand Beds (DSB) to find out if this would work at denitrification. Also
> you
> wouldn't get any buffering capabilities for your system. I'm also not
> sure
> if detrivores would burrow into glass beads, so it might be a problem
> keeping it clean.
>
> Those are just my thoughts. I don't have any real research to back it up.
> I did use glass marbles for freshwater fish breeding at one time, and
> glass
> is inert, and won't harm the fish. It is my opinion that you should use an
> aragonite sand, and if you don't want to pay a fortune for it, try looking
> for southdown/yardright/old castle brand sand at home depot, or your local
> landscaping companies. Yard right sand is sold as Tropical Play Sand at
> some of these places. If you can't find that, I would at least go with a
> decent silica based sand. I do have to say though, that there is debate
> on
> whether silica based sand is good for your tanks, but so far all the
> research I have done, has led me to believe that this is all bunk, and it
> is
> ok for your tank. But only you can make that decision. -Chris
>
>
>




Posted by John Cassara on March 18, 2005, 9:35 am
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I have 75lbs of the Home Depot "Tropical Play Sand" in my reef tank. It is
full of critters, it stays milk white, the fish, snails etc all play in it
and it has the gas bubbles evident of denitrification. I did not even seed
it with live sand from LFS! So what's wrong with it in your opinion?

John

>I tried the home depot brands,NOT GOOD!! If your going to do a DSB you
>should do it right from the beginning or you will get hell,,,Its what helps
>support the system and unless you have 20 cent minnows in the tank I would
>not mess with the proven way.Trust me I tried
>
> --
>
>
> www.reeftanksonline.com
> www.nydiver.com
> ONLINE meeting rooms
>
>
>
>>
>>> Hi there:
>>>
>>> Do any of you think it would be possible to use tiny glass beads 1-2mm
>>> in the substrate? They would be inert, wouldn't they?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> quietreef
>>
>> I'm sure you could use this as a substrate, but I think it would only be
>> for
>> your viewing pleasure. You might do some research on grain sizes of Deep
>> Sand Beds (DSB) to find out if this would work at denitrification. Also
>> you
>> wouldn't get any buffering capabilities for your system. I'm also not
>> sure
>> if detrivores would burrow into glass beads, so it might be a problem
>> keeping it clean.
>>
>> Those are just my thoughts. I don't have any real research to back it
>> up.
>> I did use glass marbles for freshwater fish breeding at one time, and
>> glass
>> is inert, and won't harm the fish. It is my opinion that you should use
>> an
>> aragonite sand, and if you don't want to pay a fortune for it, try
>> looking
>> for southdown/yardright/old castle brand sand at home depot, or your
>> local
>> landscaping companies. Yard right sand is sold as Tropical Play Sand at
>> some of these places. If you can't find that, I would at least go with a
>> decent silica based sand. I do have to say though, that there is debate
>> on
>> whether silica based sand is good for your tanks, but so far all the
>> research I have done, has led me to believe that this is all bunk, and it
>> is
>> ok for your tank. But only you can make that decision. -Chris
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



Posted by RicSeyler on March 18, 2005, 12:28 pm
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Some people have heard about Southdown Sand at Home Depot
and inadvertently bought the regular ole silica, very very dirty
construction
sand not knowing the difference at purchase, thinking they have bought
what they heard about (Southdown)......

John Cassara wrote:

>I have 75lbs of the Home Depot "Tropical Play Sand" in my reef tank. It is
>full of critters, it stays milk white, the fish, snails etc all play in it
>and it has the gas bubbles evident of denitrification. I did not even seed
>it with live sand from LFS! So what's wrong with it in your opinion?
>
>

--
Ric Seyler



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