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Posted by !Speedy Gonzales! on January 13, 2006, 4:36 pm
Please log in for more thread options Complete aquaria newbie here and have a query regarding the loss of a few
male guppy's.
Got myself a Fluval Duo Deep that holds around 125L of water. I set it up
before Christmas, added about 20 live plants then after 2 weeks, checked my
water and added 5 neon tetra's. Two weeks later(this week) I added 2 pairs
of guppy's and after one night, one of the males had ceased to exist. Tested
my water, ammonia was 0.5 out of a scale of 0 to 8, pH was OK and my
nitrites and nitrates were both low. Nitrate is probably low due to my tank
being still relatively 'green'. I took a sample of water to my local
aquarium shop and the vendor agreed my water, although young, was good. I
got a replacement guppy and introduced it to my tank. The next night, my
second guppy died and the third night, my replacement male guppy died. I
noticed on the third night that the replacement guppy just seemed to be
treading water at the top of the tank with the dorsal and ventral fins in a
'closed' position. All my tetras and female guppy's are behaving and feeding
normally. I have chosen not to replace either until I can figure out what
my problem may be.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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Posted by §tudz on January 13, 2006, 5:25 pm
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> Complete aquaria newbie here and have a query regarding the loss of a few
> male guppy's.
> Got myself a Fluval Duo Deep that holds around 125L of water. I set it up
> before Christmas, added about 20 live plants then after 2 weeks, checked
> my water and added 5 neon tetra's. Two weeks later(this week) I added 2
> pairs of guppy's and after one night, one of the males had ceased to
> exist. Tested my water, ammonia was 0.5 out of a scale of 0 to 8, pH was
> OK and my nitrites and nitrates were both low. Nitrate is probably low due
> to my tank being still relatively 'green'. I took a sample of water to my
> local aquarium shop and the vendor agreed my water, although young, was
> good. I got a replacement guppy and introduced it to my tank. The next
> night, my second guppy died and the third night, my replacement male guppy
> died. I noticed on the third night that the replacement guppy just seemed
> to be treading water at the top of the tank with the dorsal and ventral
> fins in a 'closed' position. All my tetras and female guppy's are behaving
> and feeding normally. I have chosen not to replace either until I can
> figure out what my problem may be.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Do you have an air stone? could be lack of oxygen.
Do they stay near the top of the tank?
Clamped fins, are a sign of disease.
You should have a ratio of about 1:3 male to females.
as the males will hassle the females, but it happens less with ore females
for the male to chose from, you may see the males fight if there are only
two females.
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Posted by !Speedy Gonzales! on January 13, 2006, 5:56 pm
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> Do you have an air stone? could be lack of oxygen.
> Do they stay near the top of the tank?
An air stone is on my shopping list, I do have my fluval filter set to the
max aeration in the mean time though.
> You should have a ratio of about 1:3 male to females.
> as the males will hassle the females, but it happens less with ore females
> for the male to chose from, you may see the males fight if there are only
> two females.
I was NOT informed this by the aquarium shop or my book(for dummies). As
mentioned I have two females that appear and behave healthily. I'll wait a
month before I buy another female & male just in case my water quality is
shooting up and down.
Thanks for the feedback.
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Posted by Gill Passman on January 13, 2006, 7:09 pm
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!Speedy Gonzales! wrote:
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>>Do you have an air stone? could be lack of oxygen.
>>Do they stay near the top of the tank?
>
>
> An air stone is on my shopping list, I do have my fluval filter set to the
> max aeration in the mean time though.
>
>
>>You should have a ratio of about 1:3 male to females.
>>as the males will hassle the females, but it happens less with ore females
>>for the male to chose from, you may see the males fight if there are only
>>two females.
>
>
> I was NOT informed this by the aquarium shop or my book(for dummies). As
> mentioned I have two females that appear and behave healthily. I'll wait a
> month before I buy another female & male just in case my water quality is
> shooting up and down.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
>
I've always tended to keep all male guppies with no issues....unless you
want babies I would go this way...If you do go a male/female mix then
the more females to males is a good idea whatever the fish (with certain
exceptions) - the males will hassle a single female to a stress level
that will cause her to become unwell and death can result...been there,
done this, with Gouramis....with guppies you may get issues with
dominant males killing off the competition.
I don't believe that ornamental guppies are the best starter fish...the
stock is not strong enough, certainly in the UK...I would not put
guppies in my tank unless I knew that the water quality was perfect....
My guess is that it is stress from the nitrite/ammonia readings and the
male/female competition. If you don't wish to breed guppies properly I
suggest you stick to one sex or the other....the males are more
attractive and are happy together with no female distractions...
JME
Gill
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Posted by §tudz on January 14, 2006, 5:21 am
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> I've always tended to keep all male guppies with no issues....unless you
> want babies I would go this way...If you do go a male/female mix then the
> more females to males is a good idea whatever the fish (with certain
> exceptions) - the males will hassle a single female to a stress level that
> will cause her to become unwell and death can result...been there, done
> this, with Gouramis....with guppies you may get issues with dominant males
> killing off the competition.
>
> I don't believe that ornamental guppies are the best starter fish...the
> stock is not strong enough, certainly in the UK...I would not put guppies
> in my tank unless I knew that the water quality was perfect....
>
> My guess is that it is stress from the nitrite/ammonia readings and the
> male/female competition. If you don't wish to breed guppies properly I
> suggest you stick to one sex or the other....the males are more attractive
> and are happy together with no female distractions...
>
> JME
>
> Gill
on the back of what Gill said, if you want live breeders then you could try
platys as they are easiy to kept as they are very hardy, but again more
females to males :)
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> male guppy's.
> Got myself a Fluval Duo Deep that holds around 125L of water. I set it up
> before Christmas, added about 20 live plants then after 2 weeks, checked
> my water and added 5 neon tetra's. Two weeks later(this week) I added 2
> pairs of guppy's and after one night, one of the males had ceased to
> exist. Tested my water, ammonia was 0.5 out of a scale of 0 to 8, pH was
> OK and my nitrites and nitrates were both low. Nitrate is probably low due
> to my tank being still relatively 'green'. I took a sample of water to my
> local aquarium shop and the vendor agreed my water, although young, was
> good. I got a replacement guppy and introduced it to my tank. The next
> night, my second guppy died and the third night, my replacement male guppy
> died. I noticed on the third night that the replacement guppy just seemed
> to be treading water at the top of the tank with the dorsal and ventral
> fins in a 'closed' position. All my tetras and female guppy's are behaving
> and feeding normally. I have chosen not to replace either until I can
> figure out what my problem may be.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> !Speedy Gonzales!
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