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Treating White Spot

Christopher Lewis

02-08-2006

Re: Treating White Spot

Iain Miller

02-08-2006

Re: Treating White Spot

NetMax

02-08-2006

Posted by Christopher Lewis on February 8, 2006, 5:45 pm

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OK after my last post about the 'gift' of loads of fish I have returned them
to the shop or a colleague is looking after them in his quarantine tank for
me.

The trouble is my tank now has white spot. I bought some ws3 king british
treatment and I was wondering what I should do about filtration while
treating. Obviously I should not have carbon in the filter but what about a
normal white filter? I have been told to keep filtering and remove the
filter media depending who I talk to. SO what is it? White filter or just
the sponge? Its a Fluval 3+ if that makes any difference.

Cheers

Chris

p.s. Follow-Ups set to uk.rec.aquaria.misc

Posted by Iain Miller on February 8, 2006, 9:01 pm

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> OK after my last post about the 'gift' of loads of fish I have returned
> them to the shop or a colleague is looking after them in his quarantine
> tank for me.
>
> The trouble is my tank now has white spot. I bought some ws3 king british
> treatment and I was wondering what I should do about filtration while
> treating. Obviously I should not have carbon in the filter but what about
> a normal white filter? I have been told to keep filtering and remove the
> filter media depending who I talk to. SO what is it? White filter or
> just the sponge? Its a Fluval 3+ if that makes any difference.

White spot is usually a sign of stress as much as anything else so treat it
as a warning & keep an eye on the remaining fish & keep changing the water
to manage the Ammonia/Nitrite levels.

As for treatment, theeee very best stuff is Waterlife's Protazin. There is
no reason to ever lose a fish to Whitespot if you have some of that to hand.

As you say just remove the carbon & any other absorbtive media before
applying. You need to leave all the basic filter media in tact.

The tricky part will be medicating the tank whilst still changing water to
deal with your Ammonia/Nitrite.

Suggest you start out with a big water change (maybe 50%) to get the levels
right down & then treat with Protazin. You just need a 3-4 day window where
ideally you wouldn't change any water. If you have to change water to manage
the levels then you'll need to work out how much additional medication you
need to put back in afterward to maintain the levels of that to kill the
Ich.

It should be do-able with some basic maths!

Good luck,

I.

Posted by NetMax on February 8, 2006, 11:16 pm

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> Christopher Lewis wrote:

>> OK after my last post about the 'gift' of loads of fish I have
>> returned them to the shop or a colleague is looking after them in his
>> quarantine tank for me.
>>
>> The trouble is my tank now has white spot. I bought some ws3 king
>> british treatment and I was wondering what I should do about
>> filtration while treating. Obviously I should not have carbon in the
>> filter but what about a normal white filter? I have been told to keep
>> filtering and remove the filter media depending who I talk to. SO
>> what is it? White filter or just the sponge? Its a Fluval 3+ if that
>> makes any difference.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> p.s. Follow-Ups set to uk.rec.aquaria.misc

> I can't followup to that group so I'm posting here and replying by
> email. Remove the carbon and use all of your other media. Put in
> fresh carbon once you're done with the medicine.

King british is a local (UK) remedy which I've heard is effective. You
now need to reconcile the water changes to keep the nitrites under
control and diluting the meds. With Malachite based treatments, I'd
recommend starting with a large water change (2/3? taken off the
substrate where the Ich cysts are), then add a bit of salt (1 tsp/g ? for
the nitrites), then the meds (1/2 dosage). Then if the fish were solid,
the other 1/2 dosage (as applicable) about 12 hours later. Two days
later, repeat the routine, but now going to the full dosage (or staying
with 1/2 dosage or whatever is indicated for scaleless fish, if
applicable). As Elaine indicated, carbon out, everything else in. hth
--
www.NetMax.tk

Posted by Mary Burns on February 9, 2006, 3:03 am

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>> Christopher Lewis wrote:

>>> OK after my last post about the 'gift' of loads of fish I have returned
>>> them to the shop or a colleague is looking after them in his quarantine
>>> tank for me.
>>>
>>> The trouble is my tank now has white spot. I bought some ws3 king
>>> british treatment and I was wondering what I should do about filtration
>>> while treating. Obviously I should not have carbon in the filter but
>>> what about a normal white filter? I have been told to keep filtering
>>> and remove the filter media depending who I talk to. SO what is it?
>>> White filter or just the sponge? Its a Fluval 3+ if that makes any
>>> difference.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> p.s. Follow-Ups set to uk.rec.aquaria.misc

>> I can't followup to that group so I'm posting here and replying by email.
>> Remove the carbon and use all of your other media. Put in fresh carbon
>> once you're done with the medicine.

>
> King british is a local (UK) remedy which I've heard is effective. You
> now need to reconcile the water changes to keep the nitrites under control
> and diluting the meds. With Malachite based treatments, I'd recommend
> starting with a large water change (2/3? taken off the substrate where the
> Ich cysts are), then add a bit of salt (1 tsp/g ? for the nitrites), then
> the meds (1/2 dosage). Then if the fish were solid, the other 1/2 dosage
> (as applicable) about 12 hours later. Two days later, repeat the
> routine, but now going to the full dosage (or staying with 1/2 dosage or
> whatever is indicated for scaleless fish, if applicable). As Elaine
> indicated, carbon out, everything else in. hth
> --
> www.NetMax.tk
>

If King british doesn't work (not heard of it) Waterlife's Protozin is very
effective also.

Posted by Marksfish on February 9, 2006, 10:05 am

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> If King british doesn't work (not heard of it) Waterlife's Protozin is
> very effective also.
>

Never used KB products, I have tended to steer clear of them (don't know
why, probably because I don't associate them with being a well known brand).
I tended to use the Waterlife range of products, Protozin as mentioned is
good, although mainly for the pond if I remember correctly. Myxazin has
always worked well for me, it is not quite so harsh as other treatments.
Remember though that white spot has a 14- 21 day cycle (temperature
dependent) whereby just because you cannot see any spots on your fish,
doesn't mean there are no cysts in the gravel waiting to hatch and begin the
process again!!

I haven't seen the previous post listing your fish, but if you have catfish
and clown loaches, they are very sensitive to some treatments.

HTH

Mark
www.marksfish.me.uk

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